High end / low end / mid end

[wimag]

ten on my team.

[DarkApollo]

Didnt they have a Cocker vs Mag last year in Cali somewhere?

Earlier this year at SCVillage.

[skipdogg]

how many would be interested in something like this

I could field a 3man team or two. Set it up for spring!

[BTAutoMag]

hmmmm, ill give him a ring

[PsychoMag]

I would totally play in a mech only game.

As far as these markers today, there really is only so many designs to choose from. Smaller companies getting ideas from bigger ones. Seems like the trend now is on spool valve guns. Eclipse is king because they give players style. They make you NEED to have the newest Ego/Geo. Even though the differences from model year to model year are not so noteworthy.

I would still prefer certain manufacturers though, for their quality, craftsmanship, and superior design. I would not run out to buy a knock off of a higher end marker, but I would take an 08 Ego over the latest model.

My markers now are a ULE Luke's Custom Emag, Angel A1, and a System X cocker pump.

And I have always, and will always, boycott Smart Parts. That company makes second rate markers and the organization has no morals or values. They've done some really bad things in the past decade.

[Frizzle Fry]

I have to say, I believe the range is no longer "Low End" "Mid Range" and "High End".

<$100 "BackYard" - Plastic BE pumps, JT Walmart-Specials, Alpha Black, "starter kits"

<$250 "Recreational" - Most Spyders, Tippmanns, Azodins, BT Mechanicals, GOG electros, DP E1

<$500 "Junior Tourney" - Proto Electros, DP Electros, Eclipse Etek, Etha, Tippmann Crossover, Empire/Invert

<$1250 "Tournament"- Eclipse Ego & Geo, BL G6R, Macdev Electros, DYE Matrix & DAM, LUXE, Angels

<$1800 "SuperGun" - Machine Vapor, Eclipse SL, etc





IMHO the thing that kept Smart Parts from EVER producing a high-end marker in the 2000s was the quality of materials used and the quality control (finish). Cheap aluminum, lazy anodizing, milling marks.

[Freedy500]

ive never seen an autococker at my field and im the only guy there with a mag

I feel ya. Minus the cocker part. I see a decent amount of those at my field.

[BTAutoMag]

ok, i started a tourney discuassion...

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=262922

/thread jack over

[GoatBoy]

No bps limit. Mech only. Sounds like fun.

I would love a mech only game where it really was mech only. No batteries at all, including hoppers.

[knownothingmags]

I would love a mech only game where it really was mech only. No batteries at all, including hoppers.

and no pneumatics?

[GoatBoy]

and no pneumatics?

I'm pretty sure nearly all paintball guns are pneumatically operated

[Justus]

In that case, a Tippmann A5 RT is going to be the speed king unless someone brings a Q-loaded X-valve'd Mag.

Point being, you're still going to have the ROF of 15+ bps very much achievable. Because of that, there's no reason to create these games based on limited functions when there are workarounds. If the point is to limit the ROF or paint usage, then just do that and call it a "less than 10 bps" game or "200-rounds" game instead of a "mech-only" game.

[GoatBoy]

In that case, a Tippmann A5 RT is going to be the speed king unless someone brings a Q-loaded X-valve'd Mag.

Point being, you're still going to have the ROF of 15+ bps very much achievable. Because of that, there's no reason to create these games based on limited functions when there are workarounds. If the point is to limit the ROF or paint usage, then just do that and call it a "less than 10 bps" game or "200-rounds" game instead of a "mech-only" game.

But Q-loaders suck so bad. They're finicky, unreliable, fragile, hard on paint, a pain to reload both on-gun and also between games, and their capacity is too limited.

Basically, everything we've read about the Q-loader from really skilled operators.

So they really should be no threat in a mech-only game.

Amirite?



Edit: I went fishing around for some A5 gameplay videos as it's been one of those curiosities for me and ran across this little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65ro_IfPv1g

Man, I would not want to face that guy on the field. No way. His A5 is AMAZING. It shoots so fast it looks like the paint is literally dripping out of his barrel.

[OPBN]

I'm not a fan of the Q, but my brother has been fiddling with his setups for a couple of years and has them dialed in really well.

See, I thought the mech games were more interesting as an old school thing. Trying to get the Cockers, Mags and some others out of the closets and on to the fields. More of a big game style set up rather than a speedball tourney set up. As soon as I heard 3 Manxxxx I clicked the back button and moved on .

[BTAutoMag]

dont hit back and move on. i want input. if you dont a speedball set up then we can use a concept field a boneyard