Fully pneumatic production marker?

[OPBN]

Which is all Armson/Benchmark/PTP property.

PTP made a pneumatic marker?

[zondo]

PTP made a pneumatic marker?

Nope... but I believe they own the patent on it. That is why you see only pneumag kits and the G-force guys had issues from the beginning getting their frames.

Also, didn't AGD mess with a pneumatic trigger? AGD Rob has the HAir, or something...

[river031403]

You mean the same ptp that screwed up all those MICROMAG bodies? Yikes hate to see the fix on there pneumatic setup

[need4reebs]

Nope... but I believe they own the patent on it. That is why you see only pneumag kits and the G-force guys had issues from the beginning getting their frames.

Also, didn't AGD mess with a pneumatic trigger? AGD Rob has the HAir, or something...

yeah colin fron DW and AGD Rob were working on the Hair...i think...i know they had some Sa WeeT Dallaras with a Hair Trigger

hair trigger Dallara:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MalRXBI4s

G-Force Mag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxFFzorMoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLE_mtAOBq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAdhmRHOYY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxNg0RGLis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cODXxzpqb4g

[zondo]

yeah colin fron DW and AGD Rob were working on the Hair...i think...i know they had some Sa WeeT Dallaras with a Hair Trigger

hair trigger Dallara:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5MalRXBI4s

G-Force Mag:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxFFzorMoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLE_mtAOBq4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAdhmRHOYY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxNg0RGLis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cODXxzpqb4g

has anyone posted pics of the guts of the hAir? Dang that pull looks tight...

[need4reebs]

has anyone posted pics of the guts of the hAir? Dang that pull looks tight...

mite wanna ask AGD Rob? but thats the only video i have seen of it!!! there are a few Autococker Hair trigger videos that show the internals tho?

[river031403]

I would love for somebody to build a hair out of a bob long type frame something with some room for the fingers to fly

[need4reebs]

I would love for somebody to build a hair out of a bob long type frame something with some room for the fingers to fly

or a UMF frame?

[river031403]

Ya umf frame is cool maybe a little slimmer though IMO

[need4reebs]

Ya umf frame is cool maybe a little slimmer though IMO

wat u got girly hands...tha UMF is slim enough

[Frizzle Fry]

You mean the same ptp that screwed up all those MICROMAG bodies? Yikes hate to see the fix on there pneumatic setup

The same PTP who has been in the paintball business for almost 25 years?

The same PTP who invented the HalfBlock Autococker?

The same PTP who released the first 45 frame for Automags and Autocockers?

The same PTP who invented the UniBody Automag?

The same PTP who released the first Autococker-Threaded Automag body?

The same PTP who designed a mechanically walkable frame that could swap between Autocockers AND Automags?

The same PTP who designed the first VM68 body that could be field-stripped without tools and supported a vertical bottle?

The same PTP who teamed up with Tom Kaye and FN Herstal to design the FN-303, the ultimate less-lethal weapon?

The same PTP who designed an integrated detente system during an era when many went without, one that lasts 15+ years without rebuild?


ProTeam Products, Benchmark and Armson were pioneers in the industry since it could be considered an industry. They partnered with Tom Kaye and Bud Orr (the godfathers of paintball) and PK Selective (the daddy of creative anodizing) to create the original Private Label marker, complete with never-before-seen technological upgrades and modifications that would not hit production markers until literally years later. PTP was offering wild color schemes when markers came in "black" or "gray", before major companies even offered the standard "Red, Blue, Black, Silver" lineup. They were also well ahead of the curve with MilSim upgrades for the Tippmann product line, offering military grade stocks/sites/for-ends years before the big MilSim sites started pushing plastic, almost a decade before Tippmann (and then BT) started offering factory packages.

Before you tear them a new one, look at what they've done. PTP has a few dozen "wins" on the books, less than a handful of "draws" (products that didn't take off), and only one real "loss"; the Micromag 2009. They have 6 generations of AMAZING Micromags that to this day sell for the same price as a brand new modern mid-range electro. They make mortars and landmines for the US Military now, and sighting systems for all manner of different firearms manufacturers. Paintball has been the last thing on their minds for about 8 years, and when they came back by the DEMAND of a few long time fans to create a marker that they knew they wouldn't make dime one on, they did, and it was not a success. Be that as it may, they still created some of the greatest paintball products ever made and that should be acknowledged.

[zondo]

The same PTP who has been in the paintball business for almost 25 years?

The same PTP who invented the HalfBlock Autococker?

The same PTP who released the first 45 frame for Automags and Autocockers?

The same PTP who invented the UniBody Automag?

The same PTP who released the first Autococker-Threaded Automag body?

The same PTP who designed a mechanically walkable frame that could swap between Autocockers AND Automags?

The same PTP who designed the first VM68 body that could be field-stripped without tools and supported a vertical bottle?

The same PTP who teamed up with Tom Kaye and FN Herstal to design the FN-303, the ultimate less-lethal weapon?

The same PTP who designed an integrated detente system during an era when many went without, one that lasts 15+ years without rebuild?


ProTeam Products, Benchmark and Armson were pioneers in the industry since it could be considered an industry. They partnered with Tom Kaye and Bud Orr (the godfathers of paintball) and PK Selective (the daddy of creative anodizing) to create the original Private Label marker, complete with never-before-seen technological upgrades and modifications that would not hit production markers until literally years later. PTP was offering wild color schemes when markers came in "black" or "gray", before major companies even offered the standard "Red, Blue, Black, Silver" lineup. They were also well ahead of the curve with MilSim upgrades for the Tippmann product line, offering military grade stocks/sites/for-ends years before the big MilSim sites started pushing plastic, almost a decade before Tippmann (and then BT) started offering factory packages.

Before you tear them a new one, look at what they've done. PTP has a few dozen "wins" on the books, less than a handful of "draws" (products that didn't take off), and only one real "loss"; the Micromag 2009. They have 6 generations of AMAZING Micromags that to this day sell for the same price as a brand new modern mid-range electro. They make mortars and landmines for the US Military now, and sighting systems for all manner of different firearms manufacturers. Paintball has been the last thing on their minds for about 8 years, and when they came back by the DEMAND of a few long time fans to create a marker that they knew they wouldn't make dime one on, they did, and it was not a success. Be that as it may, they still created some of the greatest paintball products ever made and that should be acknowledged.

Neat. But I still want my MM2K9 to shoot over 250 FPS.

[need4reebs]

Neat. But I still want my MM2K9 to shoot over 250 FPS.

wat barrel are you using? is it a under .687?

[zondo]

wat barrel are you using? is it a under .687?

Under bore through over bore, dialed up 2 known good xvalves until the reg hit the stop. 250 is the max I get to.

[Patron God of Pirates]

To bad this thread got hijacked. I would love to see a fully pneumatic walk-able production marker. For me that means a pneumatic force feed loader as well. No batteries at all.