Do You Cheat?

[OPBN]

That is genuinely surprising to me, I would think that would be off-putting to renters.

They usually seperate rentals from regulars at most of the rec fields I've been to. Never been to a field with a limit less than 12-15 bps. Ever.

[El Zilcho]

They usually seperate rentals from regulars at most of the rec fields I've been to. Never been to a field with a limit less than 12-15 bps. Ever.

They try to separate groups where I play but it almost never works out that way.

[cougar20th]

I very very rarely use anything that has ramping software. That doesnt mean its not on the gun.

Most fields Ive gone to do not allow ramping. Unless its a private game. (OSG & AG do not allow ramping last time I checked.)

Now if the other team is using ramping when its not allowed and the refs do nothing after talking to them you bet your ass Im changing guns to something that evens out the game.

[Hook]

At my local field they enforce the "semi only" rule on weekends due to the large amount of rentals and walk-ons. We do however have members nights on Wednesdays and anything goes.

[Justus]

My field has an "anything goes" atmosphere, with a strong emphasis of no overshooting. If you can control your trigger, you're fine to use whatever.

That said, I use semi capped at 11 or 12 bps about 90% of the time. The other 10% I'll use full auto - for those situations where you need to just fire for effect, like letting it rip when attacking a fort that's made of tin barn siding. (That can get loud in a hurry!) I use full auto in those situations over ramping because find that a full auto trigger is much easier to keep control of. You don't have those extra shots fired after you release the trigger like in ramping modes. I personally can't stand using a ramping mode. I have no problem if anyone else uses it though, so long as they don't overshoot people.

[cockerpunk]

do you consider splat tag to be "around here"? i was just out there Sunday and they were enforcing semi only.

oh yeah, i have not been to splatag for a while, and esp not open play. they allow any mode at there big games and rumbles IIRC, and then obviously pump day is well pump day hahaha

[cockerpunk]

That is genuinely surprising to me, I would think that would be off-putting to renters.

considering with "legal" semi auto, its pretty easy to shoot faster then with a 12 bps capped ramping, it actually lowers gun speeds.

[blackdeath1k]

now i get it!

ramping is a firing mode that is now pretty standard in all electros. what it does is after three shots, as long as as you keep at least a 3 ball per sec trigger pull rate, the actual firing rate will "ramp up" to 10 bps (or whatever the rate is capped at on your gun). so physically, your pulling at a rate of 3 bps, but the gun shoots at a much higher rate.

Well now I understand how the 14 year olds with impys back in 02 could hose like they did. I just figured it was the mouse click trigger. So not only can you set a trigger up to the point you could shake the gun and it fire. But you can set it up to fire more shots than what you pull the trigger. Nice! I knew of 3 round burst, full auto, semi, ect. But no. Don't remember that term ever being used back then locally.

Oh well. That's just when you have to use the RT bounce to your advantage.

[Freedy500]

Only time I ever go above 10-15 BPS is when I catch somebody wipe a clear hit. I get tired of speedballers wiping every time they get hit. I show no regret with RT'ing to the full effect, I intend for every shot to hit the person I am aiming at when that happens. I overshoot the crap out of wipers. But besides that no, I never go above any basic BPS rules in a game.

[blackdeath1k]

Only time I ever go above 10-15 BPS is when I catch somebody wipe a clear hit. I get tired of speedballers wiping every time they get hit. I show no regret with RT'ing to the full effect, I intend for every shot to hit the person I am aiming at when that happens. I overshoot the crap out of wipers. But besides that no, I never go above any basic BPS rules in a game.

When I read the title of this post I thought that was the kind of cheaters it was about. I'm right with you. If I blatantly see people doing that I make every point to light them a new one.

[cockerpunk]

Well now I understand how the 14 year olds with impys back in 02 could hose like they did. I just figured it was the mouse click trigger. So not only can you set a trigger up to the point you could shake the gun and it fire. But you can set it up to fire more shots than what you pull the trigger. Nice! I knew of 3 round burst, full auto, semi, ect. But no. Don't remember that term ever being used back then locally.

Oh well. That's just when you have to use the RT bounce to your advantage.

that was mostly trigger bounce back then. either electrical or mechanical noised triggering events.

[skipdogg]

At living Legends, if i run out of paint but still have air, I switch to 15bps full auto mode and dry fire the heck out of the other team. It usually sends them scrambling for cover like little girls. Funny to watch. Even guys on my own team near me look over at me like wtf is that guy doing. Not sure if anyone notices the empty 400 round clear pinokio hopper on top of the gun...

[Freedy500]

At living Legends, if i run out of paint but still have air, I switch to 15bps full auto mode and dry fire the heck out of the other team. It usually sends them scrambling for cover like little girls. Funny to watch. Even guys on my own team near me look over at me like wtf is that guy doing. Not sure if anyone notices the empty 400 round clear pinokio hopper on top of the gun...

Funny story for me. I have a barrel with just about no porting for my automag and I have around a 1100-1300 psi input for some crazy RT'ing. Well once I ran out of paint (hard to do when carrying a case everywhere) but nobody could ever tell because of my camo Qpods. Well a dry firing RT'ing automag with no barrel porting sounds like a freaking beast. I just about saved my whole team/squadron because of it. I went lone wolf in a scenario game. and ended up capturing the largest fort and most important place in a huge field with 1300+ people there. The fort was under-fortified and had only about 10 people in it. So I see an advantage with having no profile and hopper/pod sound so I sprint over and light them all up at a crazy BPS. I get most out and the rest were under 16 years old and were scared ****less with what was going on since I went as fast as I could go with the RT effect. Oh the looks on their faces when they say only one person could be slinging all that paint and making all that noise. They were under the impression I had at least 13 other people with me. So I am just holding down the fort (literally) until a whole entire enemy insertion of around 100 people were placed there. So I had a 90/45 and waited bunker hill style and lit a good 17 or so people up and scared plenty of their teammates. So I ended up holding a fort single handidly after running out of paint by simply dry RT'ing and causing drama. Was really funny until they got a suicide charge and around 30 of them stormed the fort expecting to get wiped out but found only me dry firing like a mad man to scare them, one of the best days of my life seeing their reactions to only me holding down the most important point of this game with 1300+ people in it all by myself with no paint. I felt like a legend after that. I also had to have several refs watch me the whole time and make sure I was not cheating somehow.

Long story short, I got more people out from dry firing than I did with paint and was the largest contributor to the game when it came to getting individual points.

[athomas]

that was mostly trigger bounce back then. either electrical or mechanical noised triggering events.

Yeah, it was around 2003 that ramping started and it was hitting the local tournament circuits around 2004. Even then, they really didn't have a capped rate of fire at that time.

We used to have a local team that were using Impulses that had All American upgrades, a couple with the latest full ramping that were actually All A guns that were being used that year, 2004. The main sponsor of the team used to get a kick out of how fast they could empty a hopper and control the game given that there was no rate of fire limit. I had my Angel upgraded to ramping in the spring of 2005. They didn't know until our team played them in the first tourny of the year. Once our guns could match and actually beat theirs, the refs came over to our team to tell us we needed to turn down the rate of fire. I laughed and turned down the rate of fire on our guns. It wasn't quite so fun for them any more. I always preferred my emag for any tourny that didn't have ramping, but I evened the score for our team by using my Angel in those that did allow ramping.

I always use real semi when playing in the woods or with newer players. I love my retro mag for that.

[sjrtk]

Do i cheat?

Simple answer no.

More complex answer, yes.

When i am at the local field i play semi only capped at 10. Until some ones comes on the field with Mom and Dad's money and what ever electro they are using. Their guns ramp so they feel they must use it and shoot all the kids that aren't as good as them (gear wise that is). So i hear who they are from the refs and find them on the field, just them, and return the favor of dramatic over shooting when i change the Emag to hyper mode uncapped. Once the lesson is learned or they leave i stop and continue on semi only. Not always kids sometimes is is just people who can't play with everyone else and enjoy it, troublemakers.