Who Thinks That Hopper and Gun Hits Should be Outlawed for all Games?

[Vex]

I personally do not see the point in having hopper and gun hits count on the field. In fact, I downright hate it when I am called out for one of those lame hits!

Let me, and everyone else, know how you feel AOers!

[Jonno06]

OK,gun and hopper hits should count because If you were in a war(like paintball is somewhat based on)if you get hit in gun,or clip,im pretty sure your gun would break.I dont know,thats just what my field owner said,and I dont mind since ive hit people in hopper many times

[FooTemps]

I think they should be legal... I mean... In every game out there gun shots count. Just look at video games, paintball, and laser tag...

Not to mention, if gun shots didn't count then people would buy SUPER HUGE GUNS/HOPPERS and use them as shields...

edit: Just bolded a part for cue to see that I already said something... lol

[AssassN]

I kind of agree with u except that u could just sit behind a bunker and shot over and leave people no option but to shoot ur gun or hopper. but other wise i agree

[HoppysMag]

and i quote from the Marine Corp Rifle speach.

" My rifle, without me is useless.
Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will... "

I know its not "Politicaly Correct" to refer to paintball in terms of war but thats why paintball was started, to emulate a war with out any serious pain, or death.... So if your guns hit, its gone. If you have no gun, What good are you? And also you are responsible for the gun. its the same as if you leave your elbow sticking out. if you get hit in the gun/ hopper, its your fault. Tuck tighter next time. The gun should be an extension of your arm.

[Vex]

But see, paintball IS NOT WAR! It is tag. And paintball did not start out as emulating war. It started out with dudes marking trees for logging and then they just started shooting each other. Of course, the "war game" mentality emerged, and paintball is what it is today due to that. But why should a gun hit count? They didn't hit YOU, they hit your gun. Your gun is still operational after it is hit, isn't it?
Even if you're completely out in the open, and your gun/hopper is hit, and you're called out, don't you feel robbed? If someone is forced to only aim at your hopper, then that means that you're doing a good job at staying concealed and it's up to the opponent to be able to out-flank you.

Disclaimer: I am not flaming anyone, I just feel very strongly on this subject.

[FooTemps]

Ok... the gun and hopper isn't your body but it's an extention of your body... It is what you use to play. It's like how we use feet to walk and shoes to walk comfortably. Do shoe shots count? yes!

[OldSchoolMag]

But, paintball is a war-simulating game. If you're going to do it, do it right.

Besides, why drop gun/hopper hits? And if you do, why stop there? Nobody likes pack hits either, let's drop those. And hey, I hate it when some guy gogs me, I only wear 'em because I HAVE to, so they're gone too! And chlothes, don't get me started! My philosophy is if you take it on the field with you, and it gets shot - you're out. Pack, gun, hopper, etc. If you don't want it hit TUCK IN, or DON'T BRING IT OUT THERE! Other than that, good luck!

OSM

[RATM]

Thats like saying, no they didn't hit me, they hit my mask. And if its hit it technically shouldn't be operational..unless you consider yourself still operational after being hit. And in a real case scenario, if your weapon is hit there is a good chance it would shatter and send peices of metal or whatever its made out of into your flesh.

[HoppysMag]

Becuase the gun is an extension of your arm!! you can control it. if your hit in the gun its your fault. and the gun is a vital part of the game. and still paintball is based on war. no mater how hard you try to debate it it is. in some cases more than others. Rec games that are in the woods are most like war. Sup Air is least like war. But it is still based on the rules of woods, which is based on war.

I think your just upset that you lost becuase of a gun shot that was well placed, or lucky, or whatever the case maybey. Get over it. They are the rules.

[Mav D MagMan]

Well to be honest gun/hopper hits do have a strong argument on both sides.

Although it is frustrating to get hit in the gun when you're holding it out to shoot... And to be honest it, really don't take a whole lota skill to unload on an annodized block of metal...

When I first started at SC Village (in their Rec play, gun hits dont count) my first act was to turn the hopper sideways. Walla! Insta shield, I could sit and shoot at them exposing gun, mask, and hopper but they couldn't hit me. A wee bit unfair...

So it's fairly easy to see how this disagreement can slide either way forever... as such things often do, specially with deep thinkers such as you fellow AO'ers.

[nutz]

hopper hits and gun hits are a part of the game...

it adds a level of difficulty of trying to keep ur gun as tight as possiblem...

[Vex]

Whoa cowboy! (HoppysMag) I'm not pissed because of a "well-placed" gun/hopper shot. First of all, do you realize how hard it is just to hit the body of a person (a very large target)? Do you think it's easier to hit the hopper or the gun (much smaller) Come on, be reasonable! No one can honestly say that they aim for hoppers or guns on purpose and hit them with complete accuracy--and if you do say that, then I will argue that you are an uneducated fool. You may hit the gun/hopper as a result of shooting at someone's physique, but most likely not on purpose.

A goggle shot is different--THEY ARE ATTACHED TO YOUR HEAD! Of course a head shot counts--DUH! Shoes and packs are attached to your body and are streamlined to the contours of your body, and, if they weren't there, then you would be hit in that part of the body. But if the tip of your gun barrel, which is put into places and positions that your body cannot go is hit, then why should it count against you? Your hopper sticks up above your head. So if you chunk a ball in your barrel, and you need to set your gun down to squeegee it out, and your gun gets hit, but you're not holding it, then you should be out? Come on! I know this is why they made the Warp Feed--which is why I think hopper and gun hits should be done away with altogether! Does anybody out there feel the same way that I do?

Who made this as a rule? Did people vote on it? I sure didn't. I'm just tired of people telling me, "That's the way it's always been, dude."

Think about it logically before you go on a Rant-page.

[Predater]

i aim for guns and hoppers all the time. got 4 people out sunday by aiming at the hopper. dont tell me that people dont aim for guns. gun hits count cuz you took it on the field. if you get gun hits banned i want to ban pack and mask hits too. come on, its part of the game.

[Jonno06]

i think people with common sence came up with that rule.Or the exact opposite(NPPL)