One Legged T-Rex (OLTR)

[cougar20th]

Bingo! I had a feeling we weren't on the same page.

Do you have the intelli frame modeled?

Ill pm you shortly about it

[luke]

Would this frame work with a PTP micromag and an xvalve?

Probably

[luke]

OK I get it now. Miss understood.

M86's will need to be machined to fit this.

Bingo! I had a feeling we weren't on the same page.

Do you have the intelli frame modeled?

[cougar20th]

Cougar, take the original model I sent you and drop it into your frame, line it up on screw holes, trigger pin, safety holes and flush to the top, whatever does not fit into your frame will need to be machined away (On your frame)...

OK I get it now. Miss understood.

M86's will need to be machined to fit this.

[luke]

Did more testing today and found a small issue, that is, small being relative to the whole scope of the project. (lol)
I will have to tweak the entire design, reprogram and machine another prototype. (So glad I did some testing... again>>>:sarcasm: )
What's interesting is it was a single, solitary bit of information I trusted from an outside source that went unverified until today. It's completely my fault though because I went against my #1 cardinal rule......
So it's back to work, it will be a few days before there are any more updates.

[boo]

Would this frame work with a PTP micromag and an xvalve?

[luke]

Cougar, take the original model I sent you and drop it into your frame, line it up on screw holes, trigger pin, safety holes and flush to the top, whatever does not fit into your frame will need to be machined away (On your frame)...

[luke]

Seems to just drop in as long as that area I asked about is the same as a intelli in your frames.

Like I said, the area you ask about on the cheater is 100% irrelevant to mounting it in ANY frame, it's the foot print and depth that is important. (Did you get my email this morning?)

It is absolutely crucial that the dimensions are relative to the trigger pin hole and/or the frame screw holes, just having the space is only 1/2 the equation.

[cougar20th]

There's room, but it will still need machined correct?

Set screws will work but will need to be strategically located to avoid the thinnest part of the ram cavity which is 0.030" thick.
I went with a built in mounting tab so it has a positive and repeatable mount location.

Seems to just drop in as long as that area I asked about is the same as a intelli in your frames.

[luke]

The Y grip takes extensive milling to make a MPA-3 and MSV-2 work. The MPA-3 must also be modified. I have built a few and in fact just finished one for a guy in Florida. Probably shipping it in the next couple days. I am going to say that I really doubt that this will work in a Y Grip.

The location of where the cheater must be mounted is the limited factor, I certainly wasn't implying it was impossible, just with my design.

[luke]

It appears to fit the M86,

Even could use the side mounting screws. But first check with Luke to make sure the design can handle the side pressure. Hate to have someone crush their cheater.
Mounting it like Luke shows in the picture could be alittle interesting since the mounting plates in the frames are different. Worst case for mounting would be having to make a custom mount block similar to what Luke shows.

There's room, but it will still need machined correct?

Set screws will work but will need to be strategically located to avoid the thinnest part of the ram cavity which is 0.030" thick.
I went with a built in mounting tab so it has a positive and repeatable mount location.

[cougar20th]

CORRECTION: M86's will need to be machined to fit this.

[Loguzzzzzz]

I won't be able to personally test that setup, has anyone built a pneumag on the Classic RT platform using a MSV2 and MPA-3 ram yet? If so it shouldn't be a problem but that's just a guess.

Done many years ago probably 5 or 6 now. . . . .

Classic RT Pneumag.

The Y grip takes extensive milling to make a MPA-3 and MSV-2 work. The MPA-3 must also be modified. I have built a few and in fact just finished one for a guy in Florida. Probably shipping it in the next couple days. I am going to say that I really doubt that this will work in a Y Grip.

Like THIS. . . . . .

[luke]

Yea, this valve probably won't be the end-all solution to all the configurations out there, and I definitely won't make that claim.

First priority is a working valve in my frames, the rest is an entirely different project. It's just easier to keep the focus narrowed enough to keep ones sanity, the project has enough hurtles to jump and details to juggle without all the extra baggage

Cougar has the necessary dimensions to check the frames he has modeled. I just don't have the time or the desire to jump into that right now, I'm a tad fried on the project as it is...

[BigEvil]

I've never fooled with them so I really don't know what's possible. Perhaps what I've offered as a solution can be used to figure it out. My real point is there's almost no play in the valve to be making adjustments, everything is pretty much sitting on the edge tolerance wise.

I asked TK a while back and he said there were no differences between the RT and Classic RT geometry that he knew of. There is definitely something just different enough to make a mess of best-laid-plans though..