Problem Chopping new SFL Help! Lukes Friend and a new member

[Dubstar112]

E-SFL, you mentioned the breech was over bored, maybe somone could give you measure ments to double check this idea. It seems to me that this could definatley do it.

[2000Sabre]

Luke,

I'm not sure if you can just glue a foamie onto the standard SS bolt or not. From the conversations I've had there's seems to be specific AGD part number for the SS foamie bolt. Try calling AGD to see if this would work. My preference would be to get the bolt specifically designed by AGD rather than make my own. Maybe BlackVCG can get them through PEV's rather than wait on AGD.

[BlackVCG]

Foamieless bolts are just that. Putting a foamie on the end will cause feeding issues. You'd be best off sending the SFL to AGD and having them look at it.

Also, I don't work at Pevs if that's what you were implying Sabre. It's RobAGD that works there.

[2000Sabre]

Sorry Black. I was thinking it was you that worked there. Thanks for straightening me out. When I talked to Jon yesterday he said he didn't think there was much he could do right now so I'm not sure if sending it back to AGD is going to accomplish anything. He did give me an RA so if I want to send my SFL back I can. He did suggest trying the foamie style bolt before doing that however.

Maybe time for Tom K himself to post an update to this thread. I don't think there's much more any of us can do? If we can't get a foamie style bolt to try and the ACE and other modifications aren't available yet, what else is left?

[luke]

Dubstar112,
What E-SFL meant was, that if you remove the breach, stick the barrel in it's slot then site down threw it, the inside diameter of the barrel is "SLIGHTLY" smaller than the breach. I tried two of my barrels and they had a better fit, but didn't improve the performance any.


BlackVCG,
Thanks for the info on the bolt.

[luke]

hitech

Yes it is a Vertical feed.

[2000Sabre]

Luke,

I PM'd RobAGD. He thinks he has a couple of foamie style bolts in stock. I will call him this afternoon to see if he has them. If your interested in picking one up to see if it performs better in your friend's SFL let me know.

[Hysperion]

I wouldn't doubt it's the paint you are using....whenever I play during the cold or with old paint I always break with my sfl...try shooting it at an indoor place and see if it works better....i have the ACE and all my breaks are down the barrel....

[2000Sabre]

Hysperion -I've played indoors during the winter, seeing how I live in the NE and it doesn't seem to matter with my SFL. Using the field only Proball paint, I still break a lot more paint than I think I should. Of the several times I've used my SFL, I've only had one day where I didn't happen to break a lot of paint. It did happen to be indoors. I think it's not using a foamie style bolt that's the problem. Besides, there are going to be times when you have to play outdoors,it's cold and your stuck with marginal quality paint. A $1500 marker that won't work outdoors when its below a certain temp and can't handle brittle paint isn't much good. I would expect AGD to fix the problem so it's products perform on par with other high quality markers.

Luke - Call Rob at Pev's (703)273-7732 He has foamie style bolts in stock if you want to try one to see if it improves your friend's SFL paint problem. Just ordered mine and will report back the results.

[luke]

2000Sabre,

Thanks for the information.

After spending that kind of money it seems like the bolt should be free.

[hitech]

Although it sounds like you are having problems with the paint breaking in the barrel have you tried setting the max fire rate at 8 or so and see if it has any effect? If it does then it would seem to be a feeding issue. Easy enough to try, right?

[luke]

hitech,

I think he has taken it down to around 10. I know he was messing around with the setting, but don't know for sure how low he went. (?)

[hitech]

I was thinking something more like 8 because that should eliminate feeding problems. 7 might be even better. Have you checked for a sharp "leading" edge on the bolt? It's easy enough to check and fix if that's it.

[E-SFL]

my SFL

Sorry Ive been a ghost I have been a little busy, my gun still chops paint even 8 and 9 bounce paint it chops a little less but not that much, even with the fire rate down to 8. I have been really frustrated with my gun and the way it performs. I would like to send it to Air Gun Designs and have them check it out for me, even tom kay himself. I would like to thank him for responding to my thread and helping out. My wife got a kick out of his comment Tom Kay President (really). thank you Air Gun Designs.

[BlackVCG]

Send it to AGD with the barrel you're using and let them check it out. Eric (AGD Engineer) or Tom will probably look over it.