Just an idea for those old Carbon Fiber Frames

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  • BiNumber3
    Dazed and Confused

    • Feb 2008
    • 1038

    #1

    Just an idea for those old Carbon Fiber Frames

    Was just thinking randomly, why has no one made an after market stylish trigger guard, that you could bolt onto a stock frame with a cut guard? Too pricy perhaps?

    I mean, you can probably make a pretty nice looking guard, drill 2 horizontal holes in the trigger frame, and bolt it on.

    Maybe now, it'd be even easier by using 3d printing.

    All those stock frames with ugly cuts, now with a potentially gorgeous (well, maybe gorgeous is taking it too far) looking guard!

    Not that I'd need it or anything
  • Cyco-Dude

    #2
    i think you can make a basic one, and use the standard frame screw hole to hold it on (you would need a slightly longer screw though). people have done that before in the past. i do think that a 3d-printed option might be a good idea though. you would likely have to modify the cut frame more, as people usually don't cut the entire guard off.

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    • BiNumber3
      Dazed and Confused

      • Feb 2008
      • 1038

      #3
      Yep, I know people have used thin pieces of aluminum before, but it definitely looked... slapped together

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      • going_home
        Hebrews 13:8

        • Dec 2004
        • 8343

        #4
        I think most people just replace cut frames.

        Number one they are ugly, and nothing you can possibly do to them will look like anything but jury rigged.

        And number two, most fields deem guns without trigger guards unsafe and thus not allowed.

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        • river031403
          Registered User
          • Feb 2011
          • 1080

          #5
          Another issue is if your using the frame with a twist lock body/rail you may drill into the twist lock thingy
          http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...errerid=144073

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          • Cyco-Dude

            #6
            Originally posted by going_home View Post
            I think most people just replace cut frames.

            Number one they are ugly, and nothing you can possibly do to them will look like anything but jury rigged.

            And number two, most fields deem guns without trigger guards unsafe and thus not allowed.
            that's kind of the point of the thread, is a cheap way to add guards to frames that have been cut.

            but, he's kind of on point...uncut carbon frames are what, $20 or so? whatever you did get would have to be like, $5 shipped lol. otherwise it's just not really worth it, aesthetics aside.

            Originally posted by river031403 View Post
            Another issue is if your using the frame with a twist lock body/rail you may drill into the twist lock thingy
            you would cut the frame with it off the gun. there would just be a hole there, kind of like how the z-grip is. the printed trigger guard (or whatever) would have to have a recess to accommodate the twistlock pin.

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            • BiNumber3
              Dazed and Confused

              • Feb 2008
              • 1038

              #7
              Well, I was thinking the attachment would be more like a hinge, so the new guard would fit over the 2 cut ends (or cut a slot into the two ends of the frame to fit the guard). The screws would be parallel to the trigger pin.

              And this was meant more for a double trigger than single, otherwise yea, singles are cheap as they are lol.

              But in the end, due to the size and shape of it, the guard would probably be too brittle if made with plastics.

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              • GoatBoy
                Junior Mint
                • Jun 2003
                • 1399

                #8
                The fact remains that the AGD CF frames are the lightest around; they just never made them convertible.

                I've been running a converted one with a trigger guard that I plug into the TL assembly hole for a couple of years now.





                Looks a little janky, but it produces the lightest setup around.

                You sort of lose the TL pin assembly; I was actually designing a "replacement" that doesn't protrude into the grip hole at all for different reasons. Haven't had time to test it out.
                "Accuracy by aiming."


                Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                • BiNumber3
                  Dazed and Confused

                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  Oh, that doesn't look half bad. I'd personally want the lower end to meet the frame where it was cut though, just to keep the flow of things. (Or maybe make that lower end larger, like a flap going upward to meet that cut end)

                  Using horizontal pins to hold them in would allow one to keep the TL pin hole, though on the frame above, there wouldn't be enough meat, so you have to use on of the frames where people didn't cut it flush.


                  trigger_guard.jpg
                  Last edited by BiNumber3; 03-19-2016, 08:45 PM.

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                  • Cyco-Dude

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BiNumber3 View Post
                    Oh, that doesn't look half bad. I'd personally want the lower end to meet the frame where it was cut though, just to keep the flow of things. (Or maybe make that lower end larger, like a flap going upward to meet that cut end)

                    Using horizontal pins to hold them in would allow one to keep the TL pin hole, though on the frame above, there wouldn't be enough meat, so you have to use on of the frames where people didn't cut it flush.


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                    that design might not work depending on where the top "pin" goes...remember, the twistlock pin is in that area. you can't really have the pin going through it lol.

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                    • BiNumber3
                      Dazed and Confused

                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1038

                      #11
                      Yea lol, it'd have to go below it, not sure how deep the well for the twistlock goes, and how much room there'd be to put the pin.

                      If the pin cant go all the way through, could probably make the top part of the guard wider, and use short screws on both sides

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                      • C_losjoker
                        Puro Tico
                        • May 2008
                        • 1121

                        #12
                        I like the look of that.

                        What about tapping the frame for screws and having the new tiger guard attach right where old trigger guard was cut. I think there is enough space there to drill and tap for small screw maybe same size that hold the panels on.

                        Originally posted by GoatBoy View Post
                        The fact remains that the AGD CF frames are the lightest around; they just never made them convertible.

                        I've been running a converted one with a trigger guard that I plug into the TL assembly hole for a couple of years now.





                        Looks a little janky, but it produces the lightest setup around.

                        You sort of lose the TL pin assembly; I was actually designing a "replacement" that doesn't protrude into the grip hole at all for different reasons. Haven't had time to test it out.

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                        • going_home
                          Hebrews 13:8

                          • Dec 2004
                          • 8343

                          #13
                          What's a tiger guard ?


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                          • Spider-TW
                            U R techno-literate!

                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3554

                            #14
                            On an AM/MM rail, you could print an integral ring or sleeve to go around the vert ASA. A set screw on the trigger (tiger) side could hold it in place if the grip doesn't. You could do it on an RT rail, but it would need a little more art to it.

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                            • skipdogg
                              OG & HNIC
                              • Nov 2000
                              • 1392

                              #15
                              I like that trigger guard. Would def grab one if something made it to production.
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