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  • Patron God of Pirates
    ~pgop1.0
    • Apr 2002
    • 1196

    #1

    All the Z's Mag

    I was putting together a mag yesterday from my parts bin. Decided to marry up a Z-Frame to a Galactic Z-body. By shear luck the valve I grabbed had the Galactic Z on/off (thanks to you guys on Facebook for figuring that out for me).

    Unfortunately, my backspin device is not fully intact. The thumb screw fell apart on the first twist after I bought it. The skid plate is missing. So it just has a screw I put on there and the rubber/resin part that underlies the skid plate. Oddly, it works like that, but I doubt it will for long.

    Pretty much every Z-Body I see for sale is "without skid plate". Does anyone have one for sale, and/or would any of our house machinists/3D print guys like to reverse engineer it? It's small market, but I'm fairly certain close to 100% of Z-Body owners need this.

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  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #2
    Wouldn't they need the actual plate in hand to do that ?

    The part you are missing....

    Having had one to tinker with years ago I found the Apex barrel works better and is less trouble.

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    • knownothingmags
      RKM 3D Designs

      • Apr 2010
      • 4810

      #3
      skid plate to make the ball backspin?
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      • Patron God of Pirates
        ~pgop1.0
        • Apr 2002
        • 1196

        #4
        Originally posted by going_home View Post
        Wouldn't they need the actual plate in hand to do that ?

        The part you are missing....

        Having had one to tinker with years ago I found the Apex barrel works better and is less trouble.
        Yes, they wouldn't be able to model it off of mine. I don't really think it's about which one works better so much as getting the Z-Bodies to work at all.

        Originally posted by KNM
        skid plate to make the ball backspin?
        Yes

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #5
          Yeah, the backspin on the Galactic Z bodies was created by the ball traveling under a rubber bumper that caused the top of the ball to rub on it. The body was best used with large bore barrels so that friction was minimized allowing the ball spin to continue down the length of the barrel as it accelerated. The downside of the galactic body was that it couldn't be used with brittle paint because it could easily break on the bumper.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • knownothingmags
            RKM 3D Designs

            • Apr 2010
            • 4810

            #6
            I could try to make you one with my soft rubber
            But need the body for fitment and spec

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            • going_home
              Hebrews 13:8

              • Dec 2004
              • 8343

              #7
              Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
              I could try to make you one with my soft rubber
              But need the body for fitment and spec
              I think what he's looking for is the top plate and the tension knob.

              Maybe he needs the nubbin and spring also....

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              • Patron God of Pirates
                ~pgop1.0
                • Apr 2002
                • 1196

                #8
                Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
                I could try to make you one with my soft rubber
                But need the body for fitment and spec
                Happy to provide it but...

                Originally posted by going_home
                I think what he's looking for is the top plate and the tension knob.

                Maybe he needs the nubbin and spring also....
                I'm not exactly sure what is missing. There is definitely no spring in my assembly, but I'm assuming that and the thumb screw have equivalent off the shelf components. I'm guessing that there is supposed to be something between the screw and where the rubber nubbin goes. If so, I don't have that either. Does anyone have an exploded view of this thing?

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                • knownothingmags
                  RKM 3D Designs

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4810

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates View Post
                  Happy to provide it but...



                  I'm not exactly sure what is missing. There is definitely no spring in my assembly, but I'm assuming that and the thumb screw have equivalent off the shelf components. I'm guessing that there is supposed to be something between the screw and where the rubber nubbin goes. If so, I don't have that either. Does anyone have an exploded view of this thing?
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                  I know what you need if you are missing it.
                  thumb screw , plate , setscrew and nubbin would be easy to make/print

                  its all about testing the nubbin I make.
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                  • Patron God of Pirates
                    ~pgop1.0
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 1196

                    #10
                    Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
                    best I can find
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                    I know what you need if you are missing it.
                    thumb screw , plate , setscrew and nubbin would be easy to make/print

                    its all about testing the nubbin I make.
                    I'm happy to send you the whole marker to test if you're interested. From what I can find online i think there is supposed to be a plate between the base of the thumb screw and the rubber "membrane". I gather there is also supposed to be a spring to act as a tensor to keep the thumb screw in place. Both of these are missing from mine. As is I can dial the screw straight into the membrane. This has the desired effect but without the plate I don't expect the rubber will last long.

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                    • knownothingmags
                      RKM 3D Designs

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4810

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates View Post
                      I'm happy to send you the whole marker to test if you're interested. From what I can find online i think there is supposed to be a plate between the base of the thumb screw and the rubber "membrane". I gather there is also supposed to be a spring to act as a tensor to keep the thumb screw in place. Both of these are missing from mine. As is I can dial the screw straight into the membrane. This has the desired effect but without the plate I don't expect the rubber will last long.
                      can you throw a picture up of everything you have?
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                      • Patron God of Pirates
                        ~pgop1.0
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 1196

                        #12
                        Sure. I'll take it apart and post pics when I get home tonight

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                        • knownothingmags
                          RKM 3D Designs

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4810

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates View Post
                          Sure. I'll take it apart and post pics when I get home tonight
                          Ok cool
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                          • Walker
                            O.F.P.P.A. Member
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 386

                            #14
                            Adjustable cover:
                            cover.jpg

                            Spin Rubber bumper:
                            bumper.jpg


                            Walker
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                            • Walker
                              O.F.P.P.A. Member
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 386

                              #15
                              Click for animation.....

                              spinanime.gif


                              Walker
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