RT pro = Ram Air Trans Am / 2001 vert feed autococker = Honda Civic

[Arturus]

Originally posted by MyCockerIs4U2NV
Have you looked at the new cockers? Sure back in 97-98, when you got a stock cocker, the 3 way sucked, the internals were crappy, along with everything else. But now everything on a stock cocker is pretty much great. Honestly, all a STO is is a stock vert feed cocker milled, and annoed. Then they chrome plate the front pnue's (brass -*shudders*) and slap an ergo reg and a aftermarket frame on there. And it gets a J&J barrel, if you count that. That is it.. So if you mean it looks better then a stock cocker. Then yes. But if you mean it preforms better, then no....

Hey! We both agreed! 'No' being the keyword there.

hehe Well, sooner or later I'll be running into cockers and I'll need to get some technical knowledge of them; beyond the basics. So I'll take your word for now, and when I get the chance, do a follow up and brush up on cockers.

Like I said, I actually like other type of markers beyond my Mag. Just a slight preference towards it.

[SIGSays]

final conlusion:

we compare the RT Pro = $600 (Acura Integra Type R) damn fast and tight Honda

to a

2k1 sto autococker = $620 (Ford Tempo)

notice the capatilization sto and RT Pro ever the crap car got capatilized

[Ball Buster]

Ricers..

Trans Am, you could have said something better than that. I personally don't like civics, but I have seen some really nice ones (who hasn't on west coast?) that can keep up with just about any car out there.

Boy those ricers sure have alot of people fooled. There aren't too many STREET LEGAL civics that can break 12 seconds in the Quarter mile... My car will do that stock. Albeit, a 12.9X but it'll do it..

[blnk162]

Well guys....i have a 95 honda civic ex.....and yes i spent some money on it to make fast and it will beat pretty much any class b car on the road....ive even beat a trans am with ram air.....and ive had an rt and a v feed cocker before and i like both.....its presonal preferance and if u like one over the other...who is someone to tell you that you shouldnt buy a certain gun or car

[Mag89]

I am with Cybourg. Mag and cocker users should unite against electro users.

[Sandmankc]

Re: Ricers..

Originally posted by Ball Buster


Boy those ricers sure have alot of people fooled. There aren't too many STREET LEGAL civics that can break 12 seconds in the Quarter mile... My car will do that stock. Albeit, a 12.9X but it'll do it..

You are very naive my friend. I'm seen plenty of street legal civics and tegs run 12's. That seems to be the general consensus of a lot of domestic car owners and the same thing with some marker owners. Being very close minded and thinking that whatever they have is gold and whatever anyone else has is crap.

Shaun

[Ball Buster]

Originally posted by blnk162
Well guys....i have a 95 honda civic ex.....and yes i spent some money on it to make fast and it will beat pretty much any class b car on the road....ive even beat a trans am with ram air.....and ive had an rt and a v feed cocker before and i like both.....its presonal preferance and if u like one over the other...who is someone to tell you that you shouldnt buy a certain gun or car

Hmm... I hate to do this.. but I gotta wave the BS flag.. you must have spent quite alot on that civic.. Like in terms of 4-zero's...ala' 20k or so... Even if your running NOS you still wouldn't be able to hang with alot of stuff ie. Vettes, T/A's, SS's, Cobra's or nice GT's..etc... I'm not real sure what you class a "b" Car on the road... But you haven't "BEAT" a WS6... Two things had to happen.. either A.)He was screwing with you or B.) It was a V6.. I could see you hanging with and beating a sixer..

I'm not sure what you have, but I've ran a 2K VTEC Lude with DC header, Mugen Exhaust, cam and gears, AEM Cold Air and a few other mods, which I would argue would be some what quicker than your Civic, I could be wrong but for some reason he couldn't hang... He's a really good friend of mine and he would have loved to eat me, but he couldn't.. I drive a Y2K Ram Air (which, by the way really means nothing other than "better gas mileage" and very little performance over the stock T/A's, although better than the Camaro SS's) Trans Am.. 5.7L WIth Mac Headers, GMMG Exhaust, LS1 Motorsports Lid, Yank ST3500 Converter...

I'm not tryin to dis on your car.. I'm also not an "import hater".. Just calling you on what you said.. I find it hard to believe you waxed a 1997-up Ram Air without dropping MAD money into your car.. Like LOTS of money.. I used to drive a Stealth RT/TT and wanted to get another "import" but there's nothing quite like the rumble of the V8..

Anyway... Keep bustin balls.

[Ball Buster]

Re: Re: Ricers..

Originally posted by Sandmankc


You are very naive my friend. I'm seen plenty of street legal civics and tegs run 12's. That seems to be the general consensus of a lot of domestic car owners and the same thing with some marker owners. Being very close minded and thinking that whatever they have is gold and whatever anyone else has is crap.

Shaun

Naive huh? I don't think there are that many "civic's and teg's" running around breaking the 12's without dropping quite a large amount of $$$$$ into them..

I'm not close minded in the least.. I came VERY close to buying a Civic SI or a Lude..Some of my best friends drive imports.. Two of my best friends drive Lude's.. I even used to drive a "hybrid" Import.. Dodge Stealth RT/TT... Mitsu engine, etc.. Dodge body.. I've seen alot of kids in Civic's at the track who have VERY VERY nice cars, great paint jobs etc, completely trick cars, looked mean, but they just weren't that fast..

I also don't think what I have is Gold and what everyone else has is crap... My best friend plays paintball with a JT Excellerator.. I have a tricked mag.. LOTS of people call his gun crap.. I love his gun... so that's not really the case.. It's more like calling someone on their BS.. I drive a Trans Am.. I've ran a highly tricked Civic SI running a small shot of juice versus me with all engine and I got him rather easily.. I've waxed my share.. But I've also been waxed.. I'm also not saying I've never been beat, I've had "it" handed to me by a BPU Supra rather badly.. I've also had it handed to me by other T/A's, hmm an Z06 Vette, 94 Turbo Vette, couple ground rattling 5.0's.. a 125hp shot of NOS or a Vortech 9# supercharger can be amazing... But I have yet had a Civic hand it to me.. LIke I said, i'm sure there's some out there that can, but if I had the money they spent on their car in mine.. I'd be running mid 8's...

Comparing a Civic to a TA is kinda like comparing a BE Stingray to maybe a Mag? I mean, well just think about it.. Isn't the Civic a 2.0L compared to a 5.7L? There's common knowledge among car enthusiasts (sp) whether it be Imports or Domestics that goes like this "There is no substitute for Cube's".. Nothing wrong with either gun/car really.. Just different league's... I'm sure there are Civic's out there that can roast me, but chances are they'll show up at the track on a trailer and I won't catch them on the streets...

anyway... I'll go ahead and slap a "please don't flame me, this is not meant as a flame, just my opinion" statement on here to try and keep that from happening me.. If you should choose to flame me, please keep it off the board and put it in my mailbox..

[cphilip]

Originally posted by t2m6c1
Why not build a gun from scratch and save $350 to $500?

Oh here we go again. Some of you boys might not rememenr my analogy on this building a cocker from scratch so here it is again...

Building a Cocker from scratch is like being pecked to death by chickens.

[MyCockerIs4U2NV]

And actually, if you built a cocker yourself, you would end up spending more money then if you bought a "factory custom". You would of course also have to time it yourself. But then again, you would have exactly what you want on it. You could get your own milling and anno done. Its all preference, and it just comes down to if you have the money or not.

[shartley]

[cphilip]

Well...as much as I am ashamed to admit it I cannot help but admire this gift God gave to Dogs. And a lot of other animals for that matter. However this gift was withheld from us Humans. Except of course for the very few extra nimble ones that I saw at a club in Florida once...but I digress...

Anyway, I think he must have given us opposing thumbs to compensate for this oversite. But then how do you explain why all the Great Apes got both? Is life fair? Should I be even thinking about this? Should Sahrtley have even noticed this? And why was he so intent on watching long enough to describe it so vividly? I dare not venture a guess...