AGD SFL E-MAG VS. WS Dark IR3

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  • Cliffio
    No Sig's or Av's is Gay
    • Nov 2001
    • 4592

    #16
    which shows that they took their time and designed it, and thought about how it would look on the shelves

    wdp is big on image tho
    as well it should be, it sells guns, no one wants a gun that looks like its just been thrown together with odds and ends, unles its a cocker, anyways

    packaging does matter in regards to marker performance, eveyrone knows that, he was merely saying that the box looks good conpared to a white box that could have come from anywhere, wdo took the time and money and effort into designing the box that their markers were to go out in

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    • TITAN
      kAmAkAzEe of PBN
      • Sep 2001
      • 350

      #17
      Hysperion- its not going to be a mask... some dude just made that up. it would not be reliable or practical and you would have to have the ir3 pointing at the sensor on your mask at all times... which i doubt you can do while your playing. when wdp releases you will see
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      • Butterfingers
        PhD in Automagology
        • Jan 2001
        • 2263

        #18
        Hyper have you tried tapering the tip on your bolt. Try that with the SFL and report back.

        Rounding the front edge of your bolt has shown to produce a DRASTIC decrease in the amount of breaks.

        Please report back with the results.
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        • Bonx0007
          AO SOCAL OG
          • Sep 2001
          • 1388

          #19
          Having the gun coming in a plain box tells me that more went into the RnD instead of just packaging. keep in mind that AGD is still in the Beta test phase with the Extreme and usually companies do not have full commercial packaging for Beta products. But there is a good point to be made that if AGD wants to sell more guns a little presentation would be taken well by the consumer. Lets face it humans are visual creatures we like to see nice things even if it is just a box. I personally don't think this way but I know that most people do. Also, the fact that the gun is in beta phase means that you should come here and report back the preformance in order to possibly fix the problem before wide spread release is made. I think you should also try to grind that bolt down it helped me stop chopping entirely. I love my gun now(A retro mag) Anyway, nice guns dude and thanks for the review. And to everyone else to not be hard on him for being honest in his opinion. This type of discusion is what it is all about. This is how we keep things moving in a productive direction by talking about things and developing solutions. I see a few suggestions for AGD coming out of this thread that I think he should take heed to but as always that is up to him. We have proved in times before that the AO army is quite influencial. Use that influence and help Tom out. He is only one man. Keep it up AO!

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          • CRASHKING
            CRASH
            • Nov 2001
            • 326

            #20
            Every gun has it's good spots and it's bad spot's

            the extreme has the changeble feeds and takes cocker threads which is pretty cool

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            • Cliffio
              No Sig's or Av's is Gay
              • Nov 2001
              • 4592

              #21
              angels take angel threads which is cool

              its tough to say that using cocker threads is a plus, then your saying that the twist lock system is sub-par when compared to the cocker threads

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              • AGD
                The man from AGD

                • Oct 2000
                • 5916

                #22
                Humm, I'm feeling pretty beaten up right now. Now I know why John Rice doesn't want to get involved on the net.
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                • hitech
                  Not a shedder of vortices
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 4775

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AGD
                  Humm, I'm feeling pretty beaten up right now. Now I know why John Rice doesn't want to get involved on the net.
                  You just take things to personaly. Just remember the old saying about opinions...


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                  • Cliffio
                    No Sig's or Av's is Gay
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 4592

                    #24
                    tom-everyone is just jelous:)


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                    • Vegeta
                      Moderator? Mob Boss.
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 1050

                      #25
                      Tom... it doesn't matter... jsut think.. YOUR BETTER THAN THOSE COMMIE WDP PPL!

                      If packaging determines the gun's performance... my Talon is better than your Mag....
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                      • Cliffio
                        No Sig's or Av's is Gay
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 4592

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Vegeta
                        If packaging determines the gun's performance
                        no one EVER said that
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                        • CRASHKING
                          CRASH
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 326

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bonx0007
                          Having the gun coming in a plain box tells me that more went into the RnD instead of just packaging. keep in mind that AGD is still in the Beta test phase with the Extreme and usually companies do not have full commercial packaging for Beta products. But there is a good point to be made that if AGD wants to sell more guns a little presentation would be taken well by the consumer. Lets face it humans are visual creatures we like to see nice things even if it is just a box. I personally don't think this way but I know that most people do. Also, the fact that the gun is in beta phase means that you should come here and report back the preformance in order to possibly fix the problem before wide spread release is made. I think you should also try to grind that bolt down it helped me stop chopping entirely. I love my gun now(A retro mag) Anyway, nice guns dude and thanks for the review. And to everyone else to not be hard on him for being honest in his opinion. This type of discusion is what it is all about. This is how we keep things moving in a productive direction by talking about things and developing solutions. I see a few suggestions for AGD coming out of this thread that I think he should take heed to but as always that is up to him. We have proved in times before that the AO army is quite influencial. Use that influence and help Tom out. He is only one man. Keep it up AO!
                          just a small add-on

                          it's actually good that agd is releasing these beta versions in small amounts then it will be used in real-life situations. instead of lab testing

                          now if the ir3 was done that way they might have gotten rid of the "space frame" since it is weird looking(no offense)or they might have thought of something else that might have improved the performance.

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                          • Cliffio
                            No Sig's or Av's is Gay
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 4592

                            #28
                            but the space grip is a performance improving feature over the lcd frame
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                            • TITAN
                              kAmAkAzEe of PBN
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 350

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Cliffio


                              no one EVER said that
                              agreed all he said was the packaging was more proffesional looking and is more protective instead of a little bubble wrap... no one ever said the angel performs better than the mag because of it packaging!

                              heres a pic of the packaging
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                              • SlipknotX556
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                                • Nov 2001
                                • 5054

                                #30
                                Well I know what gun I am getting next. And its not an emag.

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