The Offcial BOX Thread

[ah137]

white box? screw that I'll take a brown box!! Anyone that is going to buy a marker that cost 500+ is buying it for the marker and not the box.

Later Hills


*edit*-Stamp an AGD logo on every box!

[Blennidae]

datapimp69 has a good idea

The box wrap for the "normal" mags would be an inexpensive way to spruce up the box. For those who are going to toss the box anyway, it wont matter. But it is more appealing than just the white box.

For the "high end" guns, I think something more is expected. I don't know if people actually store their high end guns in the fancy boxes, so it doesn't need to be extravagant. I put the Emag in a Pelican case, and probably would have no matter how nice the box was.

[obsolete898]

I say put the money towards other marketing and advertisement(sp). Who gives a rat's butt about a box.

[thecavemankevin]

F! the box!
Concentrate on getting the important things done first. Such as the level ten stuff and supper bolt corrections, and so on. Don't worry about the box right now. When your ready ask us and we will design some lables for you.

Please, don't stress out and let all this box stuff get to you. I can tell by your posts lately you seem to be getting stressed. Take a night off from AO and relax (it will work to your bennefit in the long run).

Originally posted by datapimp69

the BOX itself was just like yours plain, BUT it had a wrap around it with all the pretty pics and info on it.

i know that printing is much cheaper then coustom BOX.

this is just an idea.

lets just say when you think outside the box, think about the outside of the box. just wrap that rascale.

Thats basically what i said in the other thread. Use the same old boxes, but print up some sticky lables with all the "shiney stuff"

[ben_JD]

Re: The Offcial BOX Thread

Originally posted by AGD In any case we are no longer looking at Extreme production getting close to reality any time soon.

Is production not close due to box and instruction woes, or due to production and R&D issues?


Boxes: I agree with Shartley and I agree with those who say "who cares about the box!?" I want an Extreme to arrive at my doorstep as quickly as possible in a protective package which I can immediately discard. I also want you to make a lot of money so that you an expand your staff, develop new products and take a nice vacation to someplace hot. These two simultaneous thoughts are possible due to the fact that I am already sold. It's my next gun and there isn't a lot that anyone can do to change that. For many of the users here, the Extreme will be their next major paintball purchase regardless of the pacakaging.

But, AGD needs to expand its base of customers. In the present marketplace, that means AGD has to appeal to the snot-nosed, "wow, that looks cool" junior high crowd who are just waiting to plunk down over 1000 of mommy and daddy's dollars on a new paintball gun to impress their friends. Currently, those piles of money are being sent to England as quickly as England can ship us fantastically shiny boxes full of LCD-laced paintball goodness.

My thought is, focus on the marker and make a respectably classy-looking box. I think that the interface probably has to be upgraded (yes, I think that means LCD with some sort of stupid graphic display) and the marker cannot look anything like the Automag many of us have grown to love over the course of the last decade (my Automag was 11 years old last month). I think you do that, buy some sexy ads in APG and Facefull and get some pros using and praising the Extreme and you are half-way to winning the marketing war.

Tom, good luck. We are all pulling for you.

[rudy]

we all know what we would rather do, but the real question is does the box influence the buyer or not. thinking outside the box i say go with a cool bag =] , but why does it have to be a really expensive box why not jsut a minor upgrade maybe a brighter color, but it doesn need a clear view window and a titanium handle and what not. i would say just go with soemthign different , pick a bright unique color and, then when people see the box they know right away hey that is a mag, and it gets attention but doesnt cost big. no one is going to decide on a gun based on tha box imho especailly not when you get up that high in price. which is also another issue wdp knows that by time a person forks over more then 1000$ for a gun a 10$ added cost of a box isnt gonna make a bit of difference

[oneshot]

when it comes to the box, keep the same box, just put some flashy stickers or pictures on it, maybe put some molded styrofome (sp?), inside to make it look even more profesional.

release the C&C extremes first, only release them when you think that they are ready, (all the 10 stuff)

AGD could release teaser adds in magazines about the extremes, like small phrases that make people wonder what it is.

one of the previous replys said that you should have a thread the would keep us aoers updated on your progress, I would enjoy that.

keep up the good work,I am faithfully waiting for the final product.the excitement is building

[FooTemps]

Hmmm... The only reason WDP has nice boxes is because they spend minimal amounts of money on making leaps like agd does. They make small steps with every generation and use the rest of the budget on marketing and boxes!

[Cristobal]

I think the whole box thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. The marketing types have made some good points. As far as I can see though, a nice box would look classy but wouldn't necessarily have to be fancy or expensive: take a basic well constructed box, put a background color on it, AGD crest on top, AGD name on the front, and label sticker with serial number(non-handwritten) on another side.

I think the biggest thing about making it look classy is just getting the colors right and making sure it doesn't look sloppy. I liked the suggestion for a black box. Black or dark gray with the AGD crest in red on top would look nice and sharp IMO.

The reason for putting something on the front would be so that when several boxes are stacked on top of each other the AGD name is still prominent.

Bubble wrap or formed foam inside? If the fancy foam is cost effective then its probably preferable, but if not its probably not as important as outside appearance.

And hey, why not have a "design a box contest"? who knows, might get some great ideas out of it.

Just my $.02

[Load SM5]

Like a few have said already, the box should'nt be as big an issue as it has become. When I got my SFL the box did'nt even survive the car ride home from the fast food joint were I met the UPS guy. Maybe a nice glossy sticker with stuck to the top of the plain white box just to dress it up a tad but the main concerns should be the instruction manual, and magazine advertising. I'll bet that a nice glossy add in PGI announcing the arrival of the extreem with level 10 mods, will make everyone forget that the word 'box' exists. Heck you could even put it in the add, "We thought about putting the money towards a nice box, but sunk it into making a superior product instead."

[jurassic]

Question?? Is AGD in the business of producing pretty boxes or manufacturing the best paintball markers that love or money can buy!!! If this is going to delay the the release of the Extremes than forget it! Do Mag owners want a pretty box to keep their mags in or a great looking case that the owner can purchase on their own
to protect their investment?
Also for those folks that have put there money where their mouth is and prepaid for an Extreme are they going to be left out waiting for the non paying customer to make up there mind about what box they want their
maybe future marker purchase in?!??!! So what if the Angel IR3 comes in a pretty box. Would imagine that it is only the shallow minded snobs that care what the box looks like!! The real player wants a marker that works every time the player wants it to work, great looks on the marker are just icing on the Cake. If the Extremes are only going to be produced in C&C only to start than fine. Either way, I put my money up to have one of the first best mags That Tom has ever produced. Enough said!! When its ready than its ready!! But no delay over trivial box looks!

[Chris]

Here is a box idea, it will let the gun advertise for itself. Make the box clear, out of some form of plastic. You can tint the plastic to whatever color you desire, but clear is perfect. Put an AGD sticker on the front, not top, but front of the box. Make the styrofoam or cardboard that would hold the gun in place an integral part of the box. Kind of like a presentation case. You would not have to open the box to look at what is inside. I suggest you keep the same dimensions or basic shape for the box, dont make it something that is form fitting or whatever. If possible, on top, you could do a see-through AGD logo with the name of the gun. Or, put the name of the gun on the front of the box along with the S/N and whatnot.

If you need more clarification on this idea, you know how to get ahold of me.

-Chris

[jurassic]

Marketing techniques!! Make up full color glossy banners of C&C Extremes, Warps other AGD products to be sent to paintball stores to be hung up where every customer that comes in the store will see this first!! Will it cost? You bet! But that big beautiful banner is going to create more sales than a PRETTY cardboard BOX!! Think about it!! AGD Banners on Paintball fields, stores, tournaments throughout the country!! Hell!! Wherever
paintball is played!
If you paint the world with banners they will come!!!

[Snooky]

The box is important to me. You guys say you'll just throw it out but i like to keep the box in case i want to resell it one day.

The other thing i like about the box is at a local shop i walked in and the first thing i noticed was how awesome the angel ir3 box looked making me want to atleast look at the gun inside. I think this is a greats tep towards people seeing agd as having some marketing.

Also another note i recieved my i-frame today and i was impressed at the packaging with it. It made me think that the product was cooler just because of the info and prettiness of the packaging.

Well i guess its gonna be time to buy the regualar emag and wait for the extreme's.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Thanks to Load..I think we've got our new marketing tagline..


"We thought about putting the money towards a nice box, but sunk it into making a superior product instead."