WLIPP was a bummer...

[MagDog68]

I say we just goto the cheaters house and beat him with a wet noodle till he admits he cheated. Then someone can shoot him in the heinie...

~Fred

[Fred]

I figured that would happen...

1 prize to a person is fine with me, but 3? come on...

stick with the popups and make people actually have to DO something to win, like answer questions about paintball, that are not hype related, such as paintball history and such.

make a list of 10 questions, whoever gets all 10 right first wins the prize.

for bigger prizes, make more questions (and harder questions), and only allow 1 entry per person, if they send more, boot em!

I knew from the start I wouldn't win anything (i never win anything), i wanted more info about Shatnerball.

(sigh) still dissapointed,

---Fred

[shartley]

Chris,

This is one of those cases where everyone is going to think what they did was "legal" while anything someone else did that let them send emails faster is "cheating".

[Rooster]

Perhaps the solution would be to do the standard raffle thing. Since the contest is reliant on being present, have everyone send one email at the begining, print off the list, write 1,2, - 200 by the names, have a bucket with tickets 1-200 standing by, pick a ticket, announce the winner and the winner has ten min or something to email in to claim. That way they can't enter and skip out of the party. The ticket gets thrown away and no double winners.

[raehl]

Right...

Obviously the system that was used stunk. As for changing his story, even if what he did was perfectly not-cheating, can't exactly blame him for saying he didn't do it anyway when everyone is all over his case about it. not everyone has the spine we do to defend ourselves in the face of mass criticism.

The other thing is your point that "cuting and pasting is fine, anything more than that isn't". Why? That seems to be a totally arbitrary criteria on your part, and one that is also entirely unworkable- there's no way for Tom to know if someone cut and pasted the adress 10 times and pressed send 10 times, or if someone had a program to send out an email once a second.

The raffle is an idea, although there are much better ways to implement it. One way would be to set up a script that lets people enter in their email adress, name, real adress, and get one "chance" to win. Every hour or so you could "reset" the script and give people a new chance ot enter to people who are there all night get more chances than people who are not. Maybe give stuff out to people as the night goes on and roll over entries into the next drawing for people who don't win anything.

It's not done in the chat room, it's automated, and it isn't susceptable to algorithms. If you wanted to take it a little farther, you could have people answer one or a few trivia questions and draw a new entry if the answers on the entry you pick first are not correct.

I dunno, it just seems silly that AGD does things like this without paying someone a little to create a system that's workable.

- Chris

[Brian68mag]

Re: Re: Re: I am appalled...

Originally posted by irbodden


Yes, I'd say 100 emails (In a 6-7 minute time period) is close to the MAX one would be able to send. I'd also expect only 5-10 people (out of the 140) could get that many off.

Brian claimed he sent 1500 emails out of 2000th and flooded them so no one elses could get thru. He even admitted to using "something".


If you guys are going to claim Tom never said "Mail Bombing was illegal" I hope you take a step back and think about it. Does someone need to announce EVERY single thing you can't do or it's alright? Tom never said you couldn't crack into his mailbox and tamper with the emails did he? So thats "legal" right?

When you play paintball, if the ref doesn't mention wiping, "dead man don't talk" or other rules are they ok to do? One should know better than mailbombing to win, and now he walks away with $1500 in prizes... r-i-g-h-t.

Maybe he thought he was cool by "claiming" he sent 1500/2000 emails, and really just got lucky 3 times. Tom how many emails did he exactly send, what was the average and what was the "average high"?

dude back off please, seriously, funny how i cant remember saying that i sent 1500 outta 2000, i remember reading it though, i know i didnt post it, i also had 40 bounces in my email, also ask tom or jon and they will tell you i did NOT send that many emails, i NEVER admitted to using a email bomb so thats wierd to.
I did have 4 people at my house that evening so if it was my screen name that said that i would have to point the finger at them.
Today i timed myself sending emails from one of ym accounts to the other and i could bust off the same email every 3-4 seconds, how fast can you go? My connection is nothing special, im using megapath sdsl at 192k/sec and another person was on the network sending emails aswell on my other name, which is [email protected], on the emag drawing he was having troubles with his computer so i was fixing that upto about where tom said there was about 2000-2500 emails in, thats when i started to send as fast as my internet would let me, this morning i checked my box and had 42 undelivered mail messages, so i wasnt the only one getting that eathier. To the person who said they were "digusted" after seeing my date of registration and amount of posts, i own a mag too, ive played for 4 years, i use the internet for email, researching and played delta force 1 with some old friends, sorry i dont spend much time on the forums and that it makes you pissed, but it shouldnt, ive supported AGD for along time, i havent been able to fork out money for paintball because i am 15 years old, i ahve a job at University of Wyoming catering making anywhere from 100-400 a month so its not like i have alot of money to blow on paintball, i also ahvea broken ankle(almost better) and collerbone(2 more weeks) right now from a bad 4wheeler wreck. I think this is a very good thing for me because it gives me the money ill need after i sell my old mag =( and the bushy things and get paid on wednesday ill have enough to play for the next month and get a barrel and a drop, ive used my mag for about 3 years and wanted a new one but didnt have the cash i thought i would get a emag or rt pro at the end of summer but this helps out lol. Dont stop coming to the Wlipp's, because maybe you will be as lucky as i was next time, you dont want to miss out on it, although at times i was annoyed(amy picture part, cage match part ect..)it was worth it in the end for me and the other prize winners, you dont whine if your lottery ticket doesnt win, so dont whine at this eathier.

irbodden if you have a problem with me, take it up with me, dont slander me, i dont appreciate it and noone else does eathier, if you want the facts come to me and then decide, you dont know me, dont judge me, contact me by aim or icq, fusion1155 is the aim name and my icq # is 84624252, or my email which is [email protected], anyone that needs details about anything please dont hesitate to contact me.

Please lets just end this soap opera peacefully and we hopefully can all go into the next wlipp with a good attitude toward each other.

Thanks

[mattyfatty182]

Morons. I told you all that this would happen if Tom held another party.

[X-Plosive]

Yes, hearing official numbers from Jon or Tom would make me feel alot better aout all of this. You left out a word in your inspiring Tupac quote.

[Brian68mag]

i would like to see the numbers too, and i want all you people to see them aswell.
Im kinda upset that people wont take my word, but im sure the posts by tom will clear up all doubt, until then i would rather like not to be slandered to such a nasty extent for no reason beyond personal doubt..

[cphilip]

That is what I said before in my earlier post. Clear his name if you got it. It's not fair to him or anyone else to not straighten it out. And I see no rule agianst it if he did use a program. And oversite? Well perhaps...

[irbodden]

Brian


.. Just drop it till Tom says something..

People who thought you cheated will still think you cheated even if you say diffrent.

People who think cheating is alright will still think cheating is alright.

And finally, people who think you didn't cheat will STILL think you didn't cheat.

Personally, I think your playing us like suckers.

[Brian68mag]

No its one every 3-4 secs, and if you cant read my post then i doubt you can read much at all.
I still dont understand why you cant be the least bit civil, your so hostile is kinda sad.
GG

[irbodden]

Yeah, good call. It was hard to read that gibberish.

[Brian68mag]

Originally posted by irbodden
Yeah, good call. It was hard to read that gibberish.

"Today i timed myself sending emails from one of ym(my, sorry) accounts to the other and i could bust off the same email every 3-4 seconds, how fast can you go?" - taken from my other post.
Some gibberish eh?

[irbodden]

Just look what your post looked like. It is utter trash. Try using multiple paragraphs. (Something introduced in 5th grade I believe...)

"To the person who said they were "digusted" after seeing my date of registration and amount of posts, i own a mag too, ive played for 4 years, i use the internet for email, researching and played delta force 1 with some old friends, sorry i dont spend much time on the forums and that it makes you pissed, but it shouldnt, ive supported AGD for along time, i havent been able to fork out money for paintball because i am 15 years old, i ahve a job at University of Wyoming catering making anywhere from 100-400 a month so its not like i have alot of money to blow on paintball, i also ahvea broken ankle(almost better) and collerbone(2 more weeks) right now from a bad 4wheeler wreck." -Brian

I think it's called a period among other things..