Spyder E99 better than Automag retro?!

[~WarpedRT~]

Well, lets see, IF tahts Kingmans top of the line amrker, then we have to comare it to AGD's top of the line marker, dont we? Put ANY Spyder up against the E-Mag and it will fail, miserably. In fact, almost any other gun in the world will fail, miserably. But even a regular stock mag will beat the hell out of ANY spyder any day. Spyders are cheap pieces of garbage. A simple trigger job does the exact same thing as an e frame does for them.

But remember, it's not just 26 bps that a retro can do, it's 26+. There are NO boundaries.

Your friend is dumb. Bad Company is using them because of money, and the Spyders dont make them better players either. ANY good player can take out ANY one with ANY gun, ANY time. It's skill, not the gun that matters.

[soccerdude1008]

i believe that we have forgotten what makes a marker good. so far you people have had no examples you guys are just saying "oh yeah spyders are junk they break fall apart while your holding them blah blah blah". oh and when did kingman bring out a $1000+ marker? yeah thats what i thought- they didnt. they never claimed that the EM1 would be better then the emag. spyders dont cost as much as mags so obviously they arent going to work as well, stock. get a good reg and your consistency has just boosted way up there. ive gone through 10+ cases with my spyder and havent had to replace a part. maybe if the owner knew how to take care of a gun, it wouldnt give him problems.

[AcemanPB]

just the design of the spyder...

velocity is controled by a spring
major sear/hammer wear goin on
i don't know about you but my old spyder chopped some paint
and i'll say it agian..

Kingman make spyders with quanity in mind, thats why they are cheap, good for people starting out in the sport

AGD makes mags with quailty in mind

[soccerdude1008]

i know people that have had their spyders for 5+ years with no problems with the striker/sear wearing down. also chopping is user error, not the gun's fault. yes i agree AGD makes products that are much more quality then spyders, but u still have to give them some credit. they arent as near as bad as you people here on AO make them out to be.

[SlipknotX556]

Yes they are.

[obsolete898]

Read my previous post.

Yes spyders are good for what they are cheap entry level markers. But have a number of draw backs.

Kick like a damn mule.

Consistancy is not good

Retro 2x trigger mag can get the same if not better ROF and it's mechanical

Over all cheapness of gun

Not great customer service

All in all a spyder is a good gun, but is in no way in the same class as mag. But as it was stated before it's the player not the gun. Lord knows I've been taken out by people with spyders. A guy I work with runs a spyder and he's damn good.

[soccerdude1008]

i swear, you have got to be the most immature person on this entire forum.

[Kaiser Bob]

Well, I personally wont knock spyders, the EM1 looked alright to me, although the shutter and such without a trigger job have pulls a mile long. In any case, i did start with one and my cocking knob came out the first day i played to i returned it, but while i had it it shot just fine for a starter gun. A beginner isnt going to worry about consistancy and sear wear and such, so for its purposes the spyder is just fine.

[SlipknotX556]

Who me?

[soccerdude1008]

yeah you.

[SlipknotX556]

LOL. Well I really dont care what you think so.... before the Mods step into this one, im gonna drop it.

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

well it is true slipknot, i seen alot of your post that look like a monkey wrote them, absolutly no thought... ussually more than one fragmented sentence is needed to create a well thought out post that is worth people reading. I think you are just being a post whore and trying to get the little number of yours over experienced peoples (mods, webmaster, agd, shartly) numbers, so people will think u know something when all those post were was some unthought out responce to a question. if you look back at everyone elses responce to this guys question yours looks utterly stupid!

[SlipknotX556]

Acutally only reason I post something and I have no idea what it is about is because I had a problem while in 1-5 grade and I couldnt stay on foucus on something for more then like 30 min, it was like ADD. But I had that fixed, I was in all like "remedial" classes. Because I had lots of problem with things, but that is personal. So I close with this.

[TransMan]

well spyders are good for what they do i played wth one for 2 years it DID have some wear probs the largest prob with a spyders deisign is thatthe amount of air that is shot out is controled by the amount of time the bolt stays open which is not as effective ans a mags valve but for there price they do the job

[FooTemps]

I don't have a problem with spyders but they don't have the quality and tolerance standers like mags. They fire just fine until around 6 bps stock for me. After I tried to fire faster i either screwed up or it was a mechanical thing that wouldn't let me fire any faster without breaking ever couple balls... I still enjoy playing with any paintball gun though.