spyders can shoot faster than mags

[magman007]

ok first of em1's are stupid fast, they cycle 20 bps, an e-mag olny gts 20 alos, this is b/c of the solenoid plunger and such, the rt and rt pro and retro valve are the fastest cycling systems, the sandridge f5 , rt/ rtpro/retrovalve,e-mag, and the em1 are the fastest cycling guns out there, i believe angels can olny squeeze out 18 bps

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[Nitroduck]

Depends on how he says "Spyders can shoot just as fast" .

Technically, a Spyder can do 11-13bps max because of internals limiting it.

A Automag does 22bps max (or it has been tested to that atleast).

However, a person pulling the trigger can be different.

I can do 11-12bps on my mag, and could do probabally the same on a spyder. However, if it was a in-game ROF (no trigger tricks, just pulling trigger) the mag would whomp it hands down.

FYI, a Angel does 23bps with a datalink cable. And the solenoid (the 14 way valve) does 220bps..........Its all a matter of what the shooter can actually pull.

Technically a Emag would be the fastest current electronic gun because ingame it can go RT/manual @ 26bps and still be classified as electronic.

[This message has been edited by Nitroduck (edited 08-22-2001).]

[PsychoMag]

I think a conventional spyder can run off 12bps, but an EM-1 can cycle amazingly at 19bps

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[Bub3814]

The fastest finger I have ever seen...shot 14 or 15 bps, I forgot...with mag RT...no one is going to shoot 26 balls a sec, or above 15 for that matter...and if you can your extremely fast...this thread is becoming a flame of non-sense...and needs a voice of reason...

my 2 cents

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[Ni cD]

Originally posted by Bub3814:
...this thread is becoming a flame of non-sense...and needs a voice of reason...

I'VE GOT SOMETHIN' TO SAY!!!

I think stock 'Mags and stock Spyders fire at about the same ROF. By the way, I have seen a Spyder with a Booyaah grip do a full 15 CPS - didn't lock up or anything.

[mykroft]

I've seen a Spyder SE w/ELCD cycle at 15bps (about 6 shots before chopping, really needs a warp) over a crony, don't forget the Angel, BM2K and EM-1 are basicly modified blow-backs. the main advantage of a Mag or Cocker, is better quality, and somwhat better out-of-box performance.

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[KayleAGD]

Always remember the difference between balls per second and cycles per second. Also if the gun can maintain velocity at those rates.

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Keebler - I dont know who you keep talking to - but you need to find some less combatitive people to talk with... yeesh...

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[RoadDawg]

I tested this today. I had my friend with my boo-yaah ELCD Shutter, vs my Micromag ReTroValve. With the boo-yaah grip the spyder kept up with me. Semi, full auto. just not burst. burst it blew me away. Full auto at 9 bps was as fast as we could get it to go before it went to chop city. Draw back was we didn't have a Revvy or any other type of agitating hopper. To low on cash at the moment. Anyways... With a normal hopper they are basically forced to fire the same rate cause the balls don't fall all that quick in a normal VL 200 hopper. None the less with a motorized hopper I think they would stay pretty close to the same. If anyone has 2 extra revvy's they could send me I would appreciate it j/k. Well kinda. Maybe someday I will get one and so will my friend and we will put them both to the ultimate test.

[pbtaz]

Last night I took my four year old outside in the backyard and I figured that he could throw about 3 balls a second. Up to nine if he threw them a handfull at a time.

[StevoC]

After watching the video from team-spyder (link posted by Whiskey above here), I have come to this conclusion....which I'm sure all of you would agree.

If an automag was set up the same as that spyder, the spyder would win hands down....mostly because it was using C02. A mag would have frozen quickly with that setup. using HPA, that may be a different story. But llok at all of the gas coming out of the spyder during that clip. That thing got pretty cold and kept going.

Just my 2 cents

[Paintballer86]

Ok. In the first part of the clip, you see the guy firing the shutter. You can see the whole gun. I was not impressed by this, b/c I can do this on my TL+ by fluttering the trigger. In the second one, I was REALLY impressed, but I noticed he showed the gun, and than went off screen for a second, and than you see the barrel come out of no where and do this mad ROF. He could have easily had 2 diffrent aftermarket barrels on 2 diffrent guns and switched guns. His first clip wasnt nearly as fast as the second one.

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[PAINTBALLA01]

hey my friend says his spyder will shoot faster than his mag he has both and he is selling his mag to further upgrade his spyder. i dont know what is wrong with him. it might be the fact the he is in 7th grade and he smokes

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[Hasty8]

Originally posted by keebler:
thats what i say is that bps realy doesnt matter, but he says i am just saying that cause mags are slow. somebody has to know this..

Keebler. Tell you what you should do. Get your game REALLY good and keep tagging him. After his sitting on the sidelines a few times he'll shut up.

[MarkedClown]

hmm smokes in the seventh grade... That's pretty sad i dont think he'll make is past 40.