spyders can shoot faster than mags

[MinimagRockin']

That all depends on how long and how much he smokes...anyway go up to any paintballer and ask them whether they would like to use a mag or a spyder in the next game and I think you'll have your answer...

[Bub3814]

well what I would like 2 know is what he is smokin'



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[LittMag]

Originally posted by pbtaz:
Last night I took my four year old outside in the backyard and I figured that he could throw about 3 balls a second. Up to nine if he threw them a handfull at a time.

hahahahahaha... =P

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[nastymag]

hey you guys i think on a mechianical trigger the spyder can only top of at 8 i read this on a lot of magazines even kingman accpects this.on elctro trigger i think its 15 bps. one thing is a mag with a good 2x trigger like a dye or a AGD intelli you can beat any spyder without elctro hands down. now this is not fanning whitch i dont think is a good thing to do. remember this is with out electro

[MagMan5446]

Originally posted by MarkedClown:
hmm smokes in the seventh grade... That's pretty sad i dont think he'll make is past 40.

I know 3 people that are addicted to cocaine. They just left 6th grade.

I also know people that have been smoking since 3rd grade.

All of them will probably eventually OD and die.

[keebler]

Originally posted by nastymag:
hey you guys i think on a mechianical trigger the spyder can only top of at 8 i read this on a lot of magazines even kingman accpects this.on elctro trigger i think its 15 bps. one thing is a mag with a good 2x trigger like a dye or a AGD intelli you can beat any spyder without elctro hands down. now this is not fanning whitch i dont think is a good thing to do. remember this is with out electro

yeah, but what about that vidoe at www.teamspyder.com that spyder is screaming. that has to be more than 8bps.

[Mr.E Mag Man]

What you have to realize, guys.. is that the RT was tested at 26 bps, no shootdown, yada yada yada..

But what limits a traditional valve and hammer design (spyder, angel, cocker)?
Two things: Air pressure recharge rate (shootdown, if the recharge rate is not fast enough), and cyclic speed (the amount of time it takes the parts to cycle, slowed down by friction, air resistance, the amount of time it takes air to flow through the solenoid or push the hammer back).

So, theoretically, if you got the air source that fed the Automag RT doing 26, feeding say a spyder, and the internals were polished enough to do that speed, the spyder could undoubtedly do 26 cycles per sec..

Now, I know the spyder can cycle at least 20+ cycles per second.. Try holding the sear in the up position on a spyder, and let that sucker cycle for all it's worth.. Let me just tell you, when I tried that while holding it in my hand, my hand was numb because it was vibrating so fast from the shots. Only one ball came out, the one that was in the breach. The bolt/hammer assembly was moving so fast that even the weight/pressure from a 20 ball stack couldn't push a ball fast enough into the breach to even chop the ball, much less feed completely into the breach.
I tried recording the spyder cycling freely, but even analyzing it frame by frame at 60 fps (frames per second, not feed per second), it was blurred.. I counted 21 confirmed cycles that I could see in the frames. There were more, but they were so blurred that I couldn't definitively count them.

Blah Blah, I know it's different from shooting semi-auto, and how fast people can pull the trigger and so on and so forth, and I know this is kind of a side-track, but I'm just addressing the capability issue.