Autocockers shoot farther and more accurately?

[Shail]

Thats the argument Ive always had against my choice in markers, I think mags are the greatest markers out there, and alot of my friends always try to use that comment "title" against me.Could a few of guys give me more to fight back with then "No they're not".

[FordPrefect]

Say this: If you are shooting the same weight paintball at the same velocity, then a Blade will shoot as far as a Talon and as far as an Angel.

If that doesn't work, ask them what part of a cocker makes it shoot farther. Does Punisher's Mag with the pnuematics "shoot as far as an Autococker?" Or is it something else that makes it shoot farther?

Ask them if a Sniper II "shoots as far as an Autococker". Because that is basicly what the Autococker is made from.

[nilloc 93]

The distance a paintball travels is a function of the marker's velocity. Any 2 balls that leave 2 different marker's barrels with the same velocity will travel the same distance. That's just simple physics.
As for accuracy, I've heard this arguement a thousand times and it has still yet to be proved to me that either marker is signifigantly more accurate than the other. Both are great markers, but one just happens to be a 'Mag!

[Cha0tic]

just ask him to open a physics book.

[TheTramp]

NOT AGAIN!!!!

[liigod]

there are MANNY factors to how a paintball flies, its not just closed vs open bolt. but ill tell you now, no one on here will tell u what your friends say. But the truth is, manny people are more acurate with aucockers becuase they kick less when properly setup. Just a though for u.

oh yea, also most people like the layout of the gun too.


i pity the foo who brings up a mag vs cocker debate on AO

[WickeDKlowN]

if you have 2 different guns, with the exact same velocity, the exact same shape/size paintbnall, the exact same type of barrel, in similar conditions, they will shoot exactly the same. try a search, you will find the exact same answer, or something similar, over and over again.

[Jesse_K]

Originally posted by WickeDKlowN
if you have 2 different guns, with the exact same velocity, the exact same shape/size paintbnall, the exact same type of barrel, in similar conditions, they will shoot exactly the same. try a search, you will find the exact same answer, or something similar, over and over again.

comon people,

how many times do we have to go over this stuff. The autococker shoots more accurate at a longer range than almost every gun out there. Plain and simple.

You cannot take a mag, and a autococker out on a field with the same barell, the same paintball's, and at the same velocity ( which they do at indoor fields anyways ) And have the shoot the EXACT same. Its almost impossible. If the mag shot even 1/3 as accurate as an autococker there would be alot more people with mags wouldnt there. nuff said.

[Rooster]

Who let you out of your cage?



Anyways, yes the autococker shoots farther than any gun made including the 16" guns on battleships, with the accuracy of a police sniper rifle. Why? The elves of course.

[Butterfingers]

you got somthing to back that up....

given the same paint to barrel match accuracy of the guns are identical.

the reason why more people use cockers than mags is somthing called marketing...

I guess eveybody uses microsnot windows because it is the "most reliable" OS out there right... right....

http://www.pbstar.com/wgpaut20.html

http://www.pbstar.com/agdautclas.html

you tell me benchmounted which is more accurate...

If you have been around paintball as long as I have you realize everything is a marketing scheme and for the most part most high end guns show identical accuracy benchmounted.

[shartley]

[Temo Vryce]

Shail when you get your new mag let me know and I'll back to the field and Do a mexican stand off with anyone of the Cocker boys there and we'll see who is more accurate when it really counts. The only cocker that I have seen that shoots father an a mag everytime is the FlatLine (tm) Cocker.

The big reason that they are tell you that the cocker shoots straighter and father is because they don't want to admit that you have a better marker. It's not the marker that's accurate it's the person holding the marker.

If that advice doesn't shut them up, then tell them that I'll sick Tracey on them if they don't stuff it.


Now as to why this topic keeps coming up. We get new players here everyday, and not all of them have been arround since the Mag vs. Cocker days. So they ask and ask and ask somemore. This is one of those topics that's going to reappear every so often. Now you can be polite and answer thier questions like most of the people here did. Or you can stay quiet and just ignore the thread. Ranting about how often this topic comes just makes you look stupid and makes the person asking feel bad. This is AO, we're better than that.

[CleenSweep]

Well said Super Chicked

[giblit]

OMG mags are just as good as cockers but MAGs are cheaper and it doesnt take 700 bucks to trick out a mag unlike the cocker, which are pieces of crap ive owned both guns and i think by far mags are better, i only buy AGD products now im gunna get a emag as soon as i get some cash

[Patron God of Pirates]

Unfortunately the Paintball world spins on the axis of hype, not research. We know it to be untrue that Cockers shoot further and more accurately than any marker firing at the same velocity, with the same paint, and under the same conditions, than any other marker.

This means that there argument is based on a faulty premise. As is the case with most arguments based on faulty premise, the best counter argument is simply "Prove it".