Autocockers shoot farther and more accurately?

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  • Mav D MagMan
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    • Dec 2001
    • 669

    #31
    Thanks for throwin that article in here Bartleby, I was going to noodlesmack him with that one as well...

    What makes scientific fact so unbelievable to all these cocker jocks? LOL, I love cockers, but they do have their downsides and none of these super-impossible against the laws of physical qualities they swear exist.
    Last edited by Mav D MagMan; 06-05-2002, 10:17 PM.

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    • magking1971
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      • May 2001
      • 1089

      #32
      Yes Jesse_k, Newton had it all wrong.

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      • Bartleby
        Purple People Eater
        • Sep 2001
        • 803

        #33
        it's rather amusing though. you get alot of this response,"i don't know how they do it, but cockers shoot farther than mags". and when they really feel like they want people to think they know what they're talking about, then they'll say,"because cockers are closed bolt". Meanwhile taking no consideration as to what the "closed-bolt" means.

        For anyone who has not read that article, i strongly reccomend you do. it will clear up a few things for ya
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        • DarkRipper
          Elite
          • May 2001
          • 1111

          #34
          Army, how exactly does CO2 not matter when compared to N2? I'd think that everyone would be running a 20oz C02 tank, then... since it's cheaper in the short run.

          Don't tell me that compressed air systems are run by elves and that the better consistency and performance from a N2 system is all hype.


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          • joeyjoe367
            Confirmed 11 bps RT User!
            • May 2001
            • 1982

            #35
            he means as far as range/accuacy goes, it doesn't matter for 1 shot.

            If they're both goin' exactly 280 fps, it won't matter if it's shot with Co2 or N2.

            Now, N2 just happens to be easier to work with to get to shoot consistantly.

            The only thing that matters as far as accuracy goes is barrel/paint match, and a good regulator.

            You can buy a good barrel, and the automag has a very good built in regulator.

            Can't say the exact same for stock 'cocker reg's, but you sure can toss a good one on there.

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            • DarkRipper
              Elite
              • May 2001
              • 1111

              #36
              But how can you determine consistency and equal range from just one ball?

              I'd say that he's incorrect... you have to have a consistent air system and shoot a series of shots to determine range and accuracy, whether or not the gun actually matters.
              There are guns out there that just aren't built to the same tolerances as others (mag and cocker don't fall into this category) and you can't expect them to provide the same range or consistency/accuracy as a higher end gun.

              Also, I've gotten spikes on my first shot with C02, and every other one as well.

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              • Zygote
                CADmonkey
                • Apr 2002
                • 419

                #37
                If you had Superman's lungs you could blow a paintball through a boomstick at 280 fps just as accurately as a cocker. Although the saliva may cause it to hook. So nevermind.
                "Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices." - Voltaire

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                • Shail
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 205

                  #38
                  I can't wait to get my emag, and thanks to everyone for the info.I didn't want to cause a debate, I just wanted to know the true facts which cancel out the myths.

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                  • the JoKeR
                    Slightly disturbed member
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 565

                    #39
                    Re: Did you know...

                    Originally posted by SteveD
                    I never get tired of this lame argument. I also never get tired of shooting up guys with cockers, angels, etc...

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                    • Magluvr
                      Registered User
                      • May 2002
                      • 158

                      #40
                      Originally posted by magsRus
                      cockers and shockers do shoot more accurate at long range because they are a closed bolt design
                      Just out of curiousity how does the closed bolt design aid in accuracy? Some say that its because the gun doesn't jump any before or while shooting the ball. Well I have news for you, believe it or not the lower hammer in the cocker is moving before the paintball has even been fired. Second, the mag won't jump while shooting the paintball because the paintball has already left the barrel before it recocks itself. So the recoil won't affect the mag's accuracy, but the precoil of the cocker will affect its accuracy. So is there any good reason why the closed bolt system is better than the open bolt system?

                      P.S. Remember that the mags also fire the paintball once it is already completely in the barrel. So when the air actually hits the paintball the paintball is in the same position it is when the air hits the ball in the cocker.
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