******** First LVL 10 Video!! **************

[Tankdriver]

LOL

If I was in the paintball business(and I am not) I would hate Tom. You know why? cuz he always comes up with stuff that threatens to put other paintball gun companies out of business.

Good stuff Tom. I bought a mag and never doubted that it was money well spent.

[terrorizer666]

[rjvemt1]

i think this was already mentioned, its like a compound bow. the power tube must be tapered some how so that the further the bolt advances the higher the pressure gets.

[steveg]

I bet the valve stem will have two diameters, a smaller
diameter that seals against the o-ring and acts as the
low pressure piston, and then the old original diameter
that acts as the high speed piston.
the low speed length would be just long enough to bring the
bolt in contact with the (pinched) ball, but be short enough to vent
the air charge if a ball is pinched. this is probably the
reason for the shims and the "tuning".

Should I tell you about what I think the Stainless superbolt is going to look like, I did once,
Butter might remember.

[Manuel_FZR]

Originally posted by steveg
Should I tell you about what I think the Stainless superbolt is going to look like, I did once,
Butter might remember.

[paintbattler]

i cant see the video in the 1 mpeg video...

[shartley]

Shartly jumped on something trying to show that someone is trying to "fool" people about what the product will do. I would really like to know why the hell people seem to think that Tom or AGD is trying to "trick" people. He has to be one of the most open people in the indrustry when it comes to what he is working on, what he thinks of the faults of his products are and what he plans to do about it. For christ sake get the hell off his back.

actual post quote from Tom

Quit trying to think around Tom's design. People piss and moan about everything before they even know what the hell is going on.

[SiLeNt X]

woooh that post took a while to read

[BTAutoMag]

wow thats a long post. i think you out did Shartley (yes i did say that)

EDIT: sorry shartley by the time i finished reading your post i forgot who wrote it whoops

[canibus]

?

ok that helped me quite abit about this upgrade well at least i know im getting it the first chance i get but now it is availiable for minimags coorrect?

[manike]

Re: ?

Originally posted by canibus
it is availiable for minimags, correct

Yes

[canibus]

perfect

im gonna buy one of these son as they come out!after this comes out man mags will rule! gj agd!

[rikkter]

totally agree with you Shartly. no one is perfect, ppl make mistakes. it happens. obviously if the gun in the nid was in working order to use as designed, then mod 10 would be out.
so.

[Curt]

I am quite impressed. But have a concern

Its pretty clear whats going on here (in principal) I've seen other attempts to design something that did this, and even came up with a 2-stage ram idea to accomplish the same thing (Manike might remember my diagrams posted to the Tinker board)

So the pressure ramps up as the bolt traverses forward. I'll assume the patents are already filed, can you tell us any kind of details just yet?

Specifically-

1) Is it a two-stage design, where the surface area is drasticly increased after the bolt has travelled X distance (like the two-stage ram I designed) Or is it a gradual increased based on some kind of flow-throttling.

2) does this design at all mitigate the blowback associated with 'mags, their other Achillies heel.

The reason I ask, and I am sure Tom has already considered this, Is that the dollar-bill presents a relatively stiff wall at the very back of the bolt, which is a wonderful graphic demonstration but not a good simulation of an actual paintball, what is the force like after the first 1/8"?

Thats an important question, becuase hoards of 'ball players who are not quite stupid enough to stick their fingers into 'mags are going to stick their fingers into the '10.

And if the bolt pressure increases quickly enough, or reaches the second stage before encountinering the surface of the paintball/finger, its going to cause a lot of hurting.

I'm quite sure Tom will address this point

-Curt

[liigod]

blowback is solveable, very easily, anyone who is interested in hearing how just im me