******** First LVL 10 Video!! **************

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  • Tankdriver
    Registered User
    • Nov 2001
    • 104

    #136
    LOL

    If I was in the paintball business(and I am not) I would hate Tom. You know why? cuz he always comes up with stuff that threatens to put other paintball gun companies out of business.

    Good stuff Tom. I bought a mag and never doubted that it was money well spent.
    Red Chord V2 RT Pro

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    • terrorizer666
      Registered User
      • Jun 2002
      • 122

      #137
      .:Team Speedfreaks:.:black X Mag c&c:.:supported by XP Sports:.:PaintballInside
      :.

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      • rjvemt1
        NITRO-BURNIN' HYPER-MAG
        • Mar 2002
        • 681

        #138
        i think this was already mentioned, its like a compound bow. the power tube must be tapered some how so that the further the bolt advances the higher the pressure gets.

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        • steveg
          Member
          • May 2001
          • 460

          #139
          I bet the valve stem will have two diameters, a smaller
          diameter that seals against the o-ring and acts as the
          low pressure piston, and then the old original diameter
          that acts as the high speed piston.
          the low speed length would be just long enough to bring the
          bolt in contact with the (pinched) ball, but be short enough to vent
          the air charge if a ball is pinched. this is probably the
          reason for the shims and the "tuning".

          Should I tell you about what I think the Stainless superbolt is going to look like, I did once,
          Butter might remember.

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          • Manuel_FZR
            This is my MiniMag ...
            • Oct 2001
            • 563

            #140
            Originally posted by steveg
            Should I tell you about what I think the Stainless superbolt is going to look like, I did once,
            Butter might remember.
            Greets Manuel
            .:| levelx retro z-minimag |:..:| spearhead #192 |:.
            .:| ---> looking for Flatline 4.5K or AA Apokalypse 2K <--- |:.

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            • paintbattler
              Mags > Cockers
              • Nov 2001
              • 2754

              #141
              i cant see the video in the 1 mpeg video...
              Someone took away my cool sig. *cough*mod*cough*

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              • shartley
                paintball player
                • Mar 2001
                • 9169

                #142
                Shartly jumped on something trying to show that someone is trying to "fool" people about what the product will do. I would really like to know why the hell people seem to think that Tom or AGD is trying to "trick" people. He has to be one of the most open people in the indrustry when it comes to what he is working on, what he thinks of the faults of his products are and what he plans to do about it. For christ sake get the hell off his back.
                actual post quote from Tom
                Quit trying to think around Tom's design. People piss and moan about everything before they even know what the hell is going on.

                www.ShartleyCustoms.com
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                its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                • SiLeNt X
                  I do this to not be board
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 155

                  #143
                  woooh that post took a while to read
                  rt mag

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                  • BTAutoMag
                    AO's Problem Child
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 7199

                    #144
                    wow thats a long post. i think you out did Shartley (yes i did say that)

                    EDIT: sorry shartley by the time i finished reading your post i forgot who wrote it whoops
                    Last edited by BTAutoMag; 06-15-2002, 08:52 AM.
                    sigpic

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                    • canibus
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 37

                      #145
                      ?

                      ok that helped me quite abit about this upgrade well at least i know im getting it the first chance i get but now it is availiable for minimags coorrect?
                      Chromed Y-Mag

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                      • manike
                        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 3820

                        #146
                        Re: ?

                        Originally posted by canibus
                        it is availiable for minimags, correct
                        Yes
                        Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                        • canibus
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 37

                          #147
                          perfect

                          im gonna buy one of these son as they come out!after this comes out man mags will rule! gj agd!
                          Chromed Y-Mag

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                          • rikkter
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 1804

                            #148
                            totally agree with you Shartly. no one is perfect, ppl make mistakes. it happens. obviously if the gun in the nid was in working order to use as designed, then mod 10 would be out.
                            so.
                            viking #619

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                            • Curt
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 7

                              #149
                              I am quite impressed. But have a concern

                              Its pretty clear whats going on here (in principal) I've seen other attempts to design something that did this, and even came up with a 2-stage ram idea to accomplish the same thing (Manike might remember my diagrams posted to the Tinker board)

                              So the pressure ramps up as the bolt traverses forward. I'll assume the patents are already filed, can you tell us any kind of details just yet?

                              Specifically-

                              1) Is it a two-stage design, where the surface area is drasticly increased after the bolt has travelled X distance (like the two-stage ram I designed) Or is it a gradual increased based on some kind of flow-throttling.

                              2) does this design at all mitigate the blowback associated with 'mags, their other Achillies heel.

                              The reason I ask, and I am sure Tom has already considered this, Is that the dollar-bill presents a relatively stiff wall at the very back of the bolt, which is a wonderful graphic demonstration but not a good simulation of an actual paintball, what is the force like after the first 1/8"?

                              Thats an important question, becuase hoards of 'ball players who are not quite stupid enough to stick their fingers into 'mags are going to stick their fingers into the '10.

                              And if the bolt pressure increases quickly enough, or reaches the second stage before encountinering the surface of the paintball/finger, its going to cause a lot of hurting.

                              I'm quite sure Tom will address this point

                              -Curt

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                              • liigod
                                under god = under facism
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 795

                                #150
                                blowback is solveable, very easily, anyone who is interested in hearing how just im me
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                                Sly Irish Guy ^_^

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