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  • Sinnet
    Sin Wang
    • Jun 2002
    • 567

    #1

    No-rise classic mag body

    Blowback is not an issue with Level 10.- Miscue

    I believe that making a no-rise classic mag body a standard option would greatly increase the popularity of the automag line of markers.

    When I look at the two most popular so-called high end semi markers on the market, the mag and the cocker, three things that majorly contribute to (I assume) the reason why more cockers are sold then automags.
    #1 is a low-rise vertical feed. Autocockers with vertical feed have been selling like hotcakes. The automag, even with level 10, is rooted in its side feed that makes the marker (ugh, i guess in my opinion) unbalanced, and also sticks your hopper out giving you a disadvantage shooting out of one side of your bunker. Now, I know that diggers makes the center-feed highrise minimag body, but I really feed that this takes away one of the automag's main advantages, its size. Also, I have seen that some of the polls in the AO forums have shown that people prefer powerfeed over vertical feed. I believe that this stems mainly from the fact that mags do not come with a low-rise centerfeed option, and the loyalty of customers to the company. Further proof of the paintball playing population's like for vertical feed can be found in the fact that no-one is clamoring to get a side or powerfeed Impulse, Angel or Bushmaster. Also, many people have found that the resale values on side-feed cockers has dropped considerably due to the newfound popularity for vertical feed bodies. I know many of my friends feel the same way about vert feed, and would be happy to ditch the elbows forever.
    #2 would be that the autococker generally runs better on CO2, but i won't go into the same detail on this becasue it's not the point of this post.
    #3 is the fact that mags lack a nice clickety back block. Mr. Kaye, you may want to take a look at a design of mine for a battery-operated back block that attatches to the rear of the automag, operates via intellifeed and is completely independent of the mag's internals. It may lure even more customers to AGD

    everyone else- what do you think- agree, disagree?
    I feel that offering a no- or at least low-rise vertical feed on classic and mini-mags would greatly benefit AGD.
  • Panzerr
    a stockaholic
    • Sep 2001
    • 683

    #2
    #1 reason why autocockers are more popular in the tourny scene than automags: Fad.
    sixty-six.

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    • Sinnet
      Sin Wang
      • Jun 2002
      • 567

      #3
      hmmm Panzerr... that really didn't seem to have much to do with my post. You see, the whole point was that while comparing automags and autocockers, I decided to post about something that I believe would draw more consumers to AGD, the low-rise vert feed. Now, if you want to post a reaction to that, go right ahead. Heck, even say that vert feed is a fad if you want to. But try to make your responce relevent to the post.

      thanks

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      • AcemanPB
        Exactly
        • Mar 2002
        • 1885

        #4
        no autocockers are not a fad, everyone knows they have 72.8% more range and accuacy than any marker

        It's been proven in many backyards, i myself tested an autococker and an automag side by side and the cocker was WAY more accurate. I mean sure the paint to barrel match was a little off and i was running the mag off co2 but still...

        The autococker is the most accurate gun, becaue everyone knows that the moving of the back block creates an elctro magnetic field the makes the paintball glide farther and more accuractely!!!




        JK


        PS. --- if they did make a no rise body for my mini i would buy it over a powerfeed, but you also have to take into consideration all the warp users out there

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        • Panzerr
          a stockaholic
          • Sep 2001
          • 683

          #5
          What I'm saying is that fads come and go. The next thing you know everybody will be using sling shots. Someone will dedide that X marker is the best, and everyone will go along with him because he's some type of "authority" in their eyes.
          sixty-six.

          Du bist, was du machst. Punkt.

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          • AcemanPB
            Exactly
            • Mar 2002
            • 1885

            #6
            just incase anyone didn't see it i was just kidding,

            although i don't believe autocockers are a fad because they have been around quite sometime

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            • Vex
              Superiorly Inferior
              • Jun 2001
              • 1871

              #7
              Good call AcemanPB! I guarantee you that the number one reason that you don't see more vert-feed Mags is due to the Warp Feed. AGD created warp feed, why would they not want to sell it by making their markers vert-feed? Warp feed eliminates the hopper on top of the marker all together, thus giving you the absolute lowest profile of any marker out there--low-rise vert-feed cockers included.

              As for a moving back block on a Mag...the one on the cocker actually is part of the way the gun works. Why would you want to add something like that just for looks but has not real function? I'll tell you, that's the main reason why I bought a Mag over a cocker. Mags have a lower profile, and all of the internals are in one nice, tight, convenient little package. Plus my best friend used a cocker and was ALWAYS working on the beast.
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              • Brendan
                Registered User
                • Jun 2002
                • 85

                #8
                wow

                dude that whole thing about making a back block on a mag was a joke. It's a little sarcasm.

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                • Halliday
                  Level 10
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 1655

                  #9
                  If AGD made a "no-rise" body for a Classic Mag, I would definatly buy one.


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                  • Vex
                    Superiorly Inferior
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1871

                    #10
                    Brendan

                    How do you know if the back block Mag thing was a joke? I thought he was serious about it. His post reads like he is serious.
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                    • Sinnet
                      Sin Wang
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 567

                      #11
                      i guess I was a little too subtle on the sarcasm about the back block...

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                      • pbstu
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 114

                        #12
                        i agree, i would definitaly buy a no-rise vert feed for the mag if it was offered.



                        stu.
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                        • than205
                          Dancer of the kookie jig!
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 947

                          #13
                          Sinnet,
                          I gotta agree with you on the vert feed thing. It would sell a lot of mags. I think. I wouldn't buy one. I'm waiting for the side feed for my warp to plug into. The thought of having the top of the marker totally clear of crap makes me tingle.
                          Thanotos

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                          • AcemanPB
                            Exactly
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 1885

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AcemanPB
                            no autocockers are not a fad, everyone knows they have 72.8% more range and accuacy than any marker

                            It's been proven in many backyards, i myself tested an autococker and an automag side by side and the cocker was WAY more accurate. I mean sure the paint to barrel match was a little off and i was running the mag off co2 but still...

                            The autococker is the most accurate gun, becaue everyone knows that the moving of the back block creates an elctro magnetic field the makes the paintball glide farther and more accuractely!!!




                            JK


                            PS. --- if they did make a no rise body for my mini i would buy it over a powerfeed, but you also have to take into consideration all the warp users out there

                            ok guys i was just kidding, why would i want a back block on my mag?? oh well sorry if i confused any one

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                            • snwbrdr913
                              some guy evidently
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 94

                              #15
                              Okay I would definately buy a no rise vert. You have to see that it gives better looks and less profile. And personally, I think the warp feed is ugly, but it is great at reducing profile.... except when you snap out the side of the bunker and have the warpfeed sticking out and... well.. yeah.



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