No-rise classic mag body

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mark me down for #3

[liigod]

i wana see blowback not be an issue. Is it eliminated now? Does the fact taht you pinch rather than chop make it less important in your mind or sumthing? clarify this. Because i know vert feed mags i have are blenders and they are HIGHRISES. Halo b hoppers would make this possible, but i doubt without level ten on a no rise mag that you could get though a whole game wihtout a break.

[Vegeta]

I think you are are misisng an importand thing here-

The No-Rise bodies are ONLY for the Halo hopper. If you all go putting revvie's on it it will feed horribly. Why? Because the designs are diffrent. Tom stated that the revvy NEEDS that larger ball stack of a s/f or p/f. The halo does not work good with high ball stacks, thats why the no-rise was SPECIFICALLY for the Halo. I am afraid it they did release it for all their guns that a lot of people would buy them for cosmetic reasons, slap a revvy on them, then get all pissed at AGD because it doesnt feed right. If htey have a Lvl-10, they will be pinching alot and sputtering. If they DONT have a lvl-10 and buy the body before they get one.. then they will be royally pissed because its chopping up a storm......




Just giving some ppl a heads up.

[Halliday]

I knew they are for the Lvl10/Halo combo. My lvl 10 is on the way and I'd go buy a Halo for that body.

(I hate spelling)

[liigod]

like i said...

[Sinnet]

thanks for the feedback everyone-
vegeta, I realize that a no-rise is specifically a Halo-B loader, but what prevents AGD from making a low-rise? Revvies work great on low-rises on a million guns, including "blowback semis" like spyders and pirhanas.

[liigod]

no, actually they work terrable on guns with blowback. Mags have TONS of blowback. Some spyders and phiranas and stuff have close to as much. The reason they dotn have manny problems... is becase hey... THEY DONT FIRE THAT FAST! mags you can fire MUCH faster. also do u see kingman making lowrises anymore on their vert feed guns?! lol NOPE. They have highrise clams, and SKYRISE clamps. THEY ARE HUGE. Curly fries found it was the only thing that worked on his old hyper frame mag. The skyrise was funny.

[Ultimator]

[liigod]

a vert clamp?

[Sinnet]

i'm sorry liigod, but I beg to differ. My marker right now is a JT Excellerator 4.0, basically a spyder clone (mag soon :) ). It has a fairly small vertical feed tube, and I've cut down my hopper to the point where it's a fairly small stack of balls coming out of it before they get to the breech. I have had very few feeding problems with blowback due to the feed tube. I shoot strings that, although it's never been measured, are probably 5-7 bps without much of a problem. I also know people who have an electronic gripframe on JT markers (hmm, also the excellerator 5.0 and 6.0) that work great even at high rates of fire. My friend's black dragun sustains very high rates of fire with a revvy on a low-rise. If these guns can do it, so can mags, especially with level 10.

[liigod]

black draguns are awesoem guns, and they dont have much blowback usually, it doubt they have high machineing standards, so i bet their got lucky. The jt excelerator, does the bolt go into the barrel when it fires? Anyway i also know that different batches of guns have different levels of blowback. Bushmasters for example. their bots didnt fit their bodies durringa few runs of that gun, they had tremendous blowback. But like i said, maybe you got lucky with a good bolt fit, but most people who have high blowback guns and a short stack of balls have problems, unless of course they dont fire very fast.

[DoctorStox]

ok, first i would like to say, there are vert adapters for warp feeds, so making a vert feed body would not be hypocritical of AGD. secondly, i have a micromag, and they have relatively low rise vert feeds, and with my 12v revy and an intelliframe, i dont chop, nore do i break. i ahve maybe broken 2 balls since i got my intelliframe, and these were prob due to woodball in the rain. so i say go with the no rise vert feed body, vert feed rules.

[OldSchoolMag]

Okay, back to the original post first -

1) Yes, low/no rise would definatly make mags a bigger seller, because more people would rather have their hopper on top and shoot fast, than to have a warp on the side of their 'gun, making it unbalanced and harder to handle. Now, I've only played with a warp a few times, but I've found that I (and everyone I know - no exageration) prefer a center feed. It's just easier to do all around. No hooking up a warp, extra batteries, more weight (it's a mag allready, for crying out loud), balance. Don't get me wrong - the warp is a GREAT idea, but just not right for everyone.
2) So what if cockers can run on C02? Sooner or later everyone makes the jump to HPA, so it doesn't really matter, just in the newbie market (which is actually a fairly large market).

Autocockers are better sellers than Mags because they are more upgradable, WGP has many sponsorships, there's a lot of hype going around, they can run on a lower pressure and hell - they are VERY NICE 'guns. I can't wait until I make enough money to buy one - well, after I finish upgrading my RT, of course.

OSM

[omni]

My MicroMag has a LowRise Vert body and well, I don't chop like a blender. I was out shooting it today and I didn't get any chops. I've got a Old 9v PRe BE revy modded to a 12v. I'll admit I was not hammering on the trigger trying to get 13bps or anything crazy like that

I also have a High Rise insert, but thats for newer hopper necks. It doesn't fit my old Revy to well, so I haven't used it yet.

[SqueegeeKid]

Man the #1 reason Cockers sell so much is cause of that cute little batch of plastic tubing on the front. That just spells wacky-hella-coolness!

Oh yeah and the name. I smile everytime someone mentions a Cocker....
i'm grinning right now :)