"Cool... too bad the Automag doesn't shoot straight..."

[Jack & Coke]

"Cool... too bad the Automag doesn't shoot straight and level... the balls drops too much and lack the distance of an autocoker... blah blah blah...

I don't know what it is... I've been to all of the local stores in the last week to play show-and-tell with my new Level 10 Automag Retro. So far EVERY time a known die hard Angel or die hard cocker user sees me awe other people with my Level 10 demos the above stupid comment comes out of their mouths.

Then I go into the old "physics lesson" routine where I waste my time and have to somehow convince them otherwise. Myths and rumors are indeed powerful and difficult to overcome.

It's amazing how paintball people will believe anything they read that supports their choice of markers over a different brand... even if it's all hogwash.

Has anyone ever filmed an MPEG of a MAG, ANGEL, and COCKER shooting side-by-side showing how their trajectories look and compare to each other?

[DarkRipper]

Yet you own an intimidator... I could see the M98 for a beat around brush gun.

:)

Just pickin.


DR

[booyah]

http://www.pbstar.com/randebtherre.html

all i gotta say

[Jack & Coke]

DarkRipper,

I love and respect all my guns... they are like my children - they are all different, but I love playing with them equally... :)

[LJT]

As I recall one of the lvl 10 videos (see AO main page) showed a lvl 10 E-mag shooting 20 bps against the slow 13 bps of an Angel. Lots of mag owners seem to complain about people insulting their guns, but I have not had that problem where I live. Maybe people are nicer. Anyway, I should think those people you "awed" probably didn't care what any autococker or angel owner said.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
DarkRipper,

I love and respect all my guns... they are like my children - they are all different, but I love playing with them equally... :)

I'm just giving you a hard time. Don't take it as anything but a joke.

:)
DR

[Telefragged]

When I showed off my new RT Pro at the shop and the fiedl I play at I didn't get any "Pheb... Mag's suck!" comments or anything. All I got was "That's awesome!" and "That's cool!" Guess no one around here has been affected by anti-mag sentiment. Even the guy who owns a 'Cocker out of our little "paintball group" though it was sick!

[FooTemps]

I only get "mags are awesome" and "that's a pretty nice setup but you need a double trigger"

[rx2]

I haven't had any bad comments, but then again, most players I have met in my area only know what is the most expensive. ONE ref noticed my mag, but it was in the middle of a game, and I couldn't really do a demo of anything.
Anyhow, I played this plast weekend, and a few teams with Freeflows, Matrices, IR3's, Shockers, etc. were practicing. I stood and watched as their markers shot with the exact same trajectory as my Mag. Some even malfunctioned, and there were a couple of breaks. I wanted so badly to take my mag and demonstrate that I could fire with no breaks, and with the same trajectory. But, I figured that it would be moot, as I have a simple mechanical trigger, and they would just point out how slow it is. Oh well.

[virus]

well so far myself and magmonkey have been oowwing and ahhing even some of the more die hard "cocker-jocks" (ie the die hard mag haters.... you know the ones that swear by all the rumors even when confronted with facts and demos right in front of them) with our LvX demos.... only a couple left to go =) and they are slowly coming around....

i think over then next few time i play i'll be shootin everything under the sun as i switch guns for a game with them... should be fun for me... 1 beatin on their guns and watchin them pick up their jaws off the ground afterwards =)

for the fun of it this past sunday after we were done playin i went over to the chrono just to see how fast i could fan the trigger with my micro(w/retro and stock minimag frame) while havin a couple people read off what the readout was... hit 13, 14 and 15bps each once, 12 5-6 times, 11 was w/o even tring... with about a 1/4 hopper left i said watch this... stood up and emptied the hopper.... now i dont have a forgrip on the micro yet so i am only holding onto the tank reg while fanning... needless to say they heard the pffft sound about 30 times inbetween shots... one of the part time refs kept askin me if i wanted to sell it the rest of the time before i left... i just kept shakin my head =)

ok enough ranting from me....

[HoppysMag]

iv got a guy who goes on and on about cocker range and so forth, he had a mag, put aftermarket internals into it and blames the gun... i tell him to send it to AGD to get it repaired but he doesnt...

[oldsoldier]

Hey virus...I went there saturday...a couple of the reffs there were very impressed. They mentioned you demoing w/your finger...I just smiled.

[Jack & Coke]

I'm with you all regarding the "same fps = same distance" arguement.

However, after reading most of the comments regarding TASO's 18-20 inch barrel, you wonder how so many people can be so misinformed about this topic.

I'm mean, are all these guys wrong in their assessment that this insanely long barrel does indeed shoot farther and more accurate than a shorter 8-10" barrel?

Click here to read comments regarding the 18"-20" barrel.



Out of 59 reviews, it scored a 9.5 out of 10. wow.

[AGD]

And since EVERYBODY calls Miss Cleo she MUST be right!!!

Elfspeak on the long barrels.....


AGD

[ttoad4000t]

ugh....ive talked with many people with cockers over the past two days, %100 said cockers shoot farther and straighter than mags, all of them have been very stupid on the subject also...just ask TXStorm