More WAS BS.

[Arturus]

Originally posted by Cliffio
art- i know what you are saying, but enough is enough, what is the point? if you can only shoot 11 bps yourself why even have a marker that will shoot 30 or 40 or whatever, and i see your logic but then again, why bother? seems to me this bps is a hype like LP was, hopefully it will pass and we can all go back to shooting our humble 7-13 bps markers

i know for example my angel is set on 12 bps, just because in a game i will never go over 10 or 11 so what good will the 20 bps that my angel CAN do do?

i mean im not arguing i agree with what you are saying, i think that its time people realize that you make the marker, its only gonna shoot as fast as your hopper will feed or as fast as you yourself can shoot it

Pretty much agree with you on every point.

I wouldn't mind, like someone mentioned above, quality paint at $40/2000 rnds. I'm paying a decent $60 for marbs/all-stars at the moment, but even that drains the pocket.

I for one just encourages debates like the one mentioned above to take place in open forums, for the public to see and judge for themselves. Although again, it'll be nicer if the debates and research dollars were focused on making the sport friendlier(cheaper) for the average consumer.

[Cliffio]

Originally posted by xmetal2001


Very true, but if you were gonna pay a LOT OF MONEY for a ferrari, or the same amount of money for a ferrari that goes faster, which would you choose. Although you would probably never go that fast(if your sane).

I totally agree that these 18bps, 20bps, 30bps claims shouldn't influence your decision on a marker much but it is always fun to say, "My Emag shot 20bps, wanna see a video?"

(Someone probably said exactly what I just said in this thread, but i just skimmed the posts)

the car thing is good but then again when you have that car and the speed limit is 30 what is the real difference between that and some station wagon? none 30 is 30

while there is a little difference between a speed limit and how fast a person can pull the trigger, if you can only go 20 then what good will 120 do you?

i mean i totally understand what everyone is saying, dont get me wrong, but i wanna know what good will this do us? is it really something that we all need? higher bps?

i think most would say no, but yet people that make these guns put the emphasis on bps when it plays no real factor when you cant shoot over 10, but like i said i understand what eveyrone is saying

Cliff

[Cliffio]

i guess what im realling trying to say is that, bps is cool and all but any person in their right mind would sell their gun because another shoots faster

Cliff

[Top Secret]

Still, he claimed that the Equalizer Timmy is the fastest gun on the planet, and wants proof otherwise. This man is very strange. Claims that he thought up the HAL trigger and wasn't aware of the emag system, guess he "isn't aware" of the 30bps Emagnum vid...

[Cliffio]

because now 50% of all tourny markers wil be this timmy

yeah right, not if wdp has anything to say about it

Cliff

[Webmaster]

Ill tell you why 20bps is better than say 13 - or 9...

sure you can maybe only keep up a 10-13 pbs rof consistantly - but what about BURSTS.

This game is often won by bursts. Who can get out, shoot, and get back in. When i burst I can spaz my hand and get one hell of good amount of paint out the end of the gun. How many do you get? 3? 5? 8? During that split second burst, that one extra ball just increases your chances of nailing your opponent... thats one reason why its important.

[TRIAD]

OR AGD (sometime in the future)

[kemikos]

Originally posted by Cliffio
...lets spend our time and money perfecting paint...

Cliff

Not to pick nits with you, Cliff my man, but someone has perfected the paintball. They're called "Perfect Circle paintballs"; you get three guesses who makes them.

Unfortunately, they don't shoot significantly better than standard paint. At least the way I understand it (and without getting into a bunch of physics), there's not nearly enough of a performance increase to justify the extra cost, at least for paintball purposes.

[Cliffio]

Originally posted by kemikos


Not to pick nits with you, Cliff my man, but someone has perfected the paintball. They're called "Perfect Circle paintballs"; you get three guesses who makes them.

and how much do those cost?

also webby, i know, i agree bursts are good, but who can burst that high?
not me, i would be lucky to get 11

i can only get 12 sittin here by myself no air no nothing


Cliff

edit--also im not saying perfect paint, im saying great paint for cheap, not perfectly round

[kemikos]

Originally posted by Cliffio


edit--also im not saying perfect paint, im saying great paint for cheap, not perfectly round

Ah. Yes, that makes more sense. I'm with you on that one. Although, come to think of it, paint prices have dropped drastically, even in the few years I've been playing. I expect the trend will continue, but I don't suppose it'll ever get as cheap as we'd like, hmm?

[freek133]

Why do companys worry about bps when they know that nobody will ever shoot that fast?

the answer is simple, because life is a pissing contest. I am happy that agd is winning right now, then atleast the peole who are into the fastest shooting gun will look into agd and then discover that they have a heck of alot more to offer than bps.

[Cliffio]

but according to him that timmy is faster


Cliff

[freek133]

... and according to every ao'er the emag is faster.

[Cliffio]

according to who? ao'ers? yeah ok.... this IS an agd website, lets not forget who we are dealing with, but if what he says is true, then that gun is faster, but wtf WHO CARES???

[FooTemps]

I DO! I just want a gun to wow my friends. That means I want that 30 bps just so they can drooooooool! lol. JK!(kinda)

I would much much rather have CHEAPER high quality paint. I wish high quality paint could be 20 dolla per case.