Automag vs Autococker, please level with me

[FalconGuy016]

if I get an autococker I already haev all the equipment I will need to play (getting the autococker with a bottomline is about 320 or 330 if you get an anodised one) but for minimag I will need at least 400 to get it running

but thats something , if I REALLY push , I can do (the minimag). I have to know if its worth doing, or is the autoccocker alright. I will try to get one to shoot with but I doubt I ever will be able to . Thats why I need your help and I appreciate yours responses already, thanks a lot.

[magman007]

ok ,im saying, look into the tko, i think there like 250 for standard and like 280 for powerfeed, then about 80 bux for nitro and your set. and your at about the same price as the cocker. and you dotn have to worry about re timing. I think you would be hapier with a mag, i know i was. you really need to try them out. i know your first day of paintballw as yesterday, and you really liked,it. I think yo uneed to come down off your high of playing and really contemplate. trust me

[InfinatyBPS]

Originally posted by FalconGuy016
This retiming thing really scares me.

Timing is very easy, just as long as you know what you are doing... don't think of as adjusting a complicated machine, but think of it as adjusting 2 screws... which is true, you adjust the sear lug, and adjust the 3 way timing rod, dosen't seem to hard to me But of course you do have to adjust them to work with eachother.

Oh, and go COCKER ALL THE WAY!!!! they are great fun to upgrade and tinker with, and you can do it all over time so if you don't have money its cool.

[Boble86]

I can sell u a aluminum 48/30 nitro tank for $50 if that help your decision on the mag at all.

[InfinatyBPS]

ITS A TRAP!!!!!

Remember this, if you ever get enough money and think you need a high end gun, you can always, upgrade the cocker and mill and ano the body if you want... I don't think you can turn a minimag into a realy high end marker

[FalconGuy016]

agh

Well, I would like a minimag (280$) but I am looking at a crossfire 48cuinch tank (just under a 100$) and a gas through grip and hoses, I'd say at least 400$. To get an autococker I would have one for 322 with bottomline set up and I could use my own c02 and previous equipment. But, I cant decide which one is really better. And I'd need a new barrel for either option too.

The whole reason for getting a new gun after just once playing paintball is because I was on a large team and I got to compare my gun's performance with others. The others rocked. Mine kinda pooped. I think my bolt is actually damaged cause the linkage arm would sometimes come off and the bolt with be blown INTO my barrel, which then would require hammering and a dowell rod to come out. But I would like a new gun that could last me for years and be competative with others. I am now actually leaning towards the minimag but I dont know.

[FalconGuy016]

I like how the cocker can be upgraded into some really high end stuff as mentioned, but I think mags can be too.

How do each compare stock? Is the stock autococker better than stock minimag ? because I will be stock for a while with whichever option I get to have.

[magman007]

Infinity, you cant turn a minimag into a high end marker? WTF? havnt you ben here long enough to understand what the retrovalve is? i see the wink, but that usually means something is up. i think we all need to realize something. A minimag with retro and Lvl 10 is comprable to a freeflow cocker. ok?

now, the minimag is 280 right? well you can get the tko automag with powerfeed for that. THat comes with everything. The minimag is no different, olny difference is a longer body. If that floats your boat then by all means spend the money. If you really want performance, gfet the tko (with gassthro, bottomline, hoses etc) and then get nitro. if you want a minimag later on, you can buy the body. its simple really.

As for barrels, the tko already comes with an aftermarket barrel. Also, the cocker stock barrel from what i know blows.

[InfinatyBPS]

Yes its comparable in performance, but not in status, which is what I assumed he cared about if he felt he needed a "high end" marker...

[magman007]

ok, good point, ststus. The kid is a new player, he wants status, but doesnt have the money for it. Isnt a mag great status? im just saying. I kno yout a cocker fan, im a mag guy. you and i have to agree to disagree, and just offer our positive feelings.

One feeling i have is that cockers to run lp need different pneus, rams, and valves, not to mention a crap load of springs. this can run upwards of 200 dollars. the nice thing about a mag, is lvl 10 only costs 85 dollars.


Also, check out the classifieds. tons of mags there, as well as cockers. you can get an already upgraded mag for the price your about to dish out for a minimag.

[petefol]

i think in the long run it will be cheaper to buy a mag. all the upgrades you need are the level 10 kit for 65$, an intelliframe for 115$, and a retro valve for 200$ and if you like it, a warp is around 115$. so to have a high end mag it will cost about 400$ for an unwarped mag and 500$ for one with a warp. anyone know about how much it would cost to buy the best bolt, front block, trigger frame and all the other stuff for a cocker?

[Dragoon]

If your budget minded (and it seems you are) then here is my advice.

To get the best bang for your buck by a used mag. First of all mags seem to have a lower resale value than cockers. Secondly the materals used in a mag and the great design, mean they don't wear out (a 10 year old mag will still run like new with a few new o-rings). The minimag body costs more than a standard body and the only diferences are cosmetic. They do look really nice, but think of the mini body as an upgrade you could always add later.

So check out the classifieds here and look for a mag that you can afford. Better yet put up an add of your own saying something like "I'm looking for a mag and have $350 show me what you got". You'd be amazed at what you can get. I've bought powerfeed mags with extra barrels and all the fittings for just over $150 (now that was exceptional, but you never know what you'll find - by the way that mag was bought from a local store that was selling it on consignment, don't forget to check out your local stores for used equipment).

Douglas

edit: oh and I forgot. The tank offered above for $50 seems like a good option. You get a lot for your money buying things that are used.

[DarkPhoenix]

As an owner of an E-mag and an autococker, I have to say that it is completely up to you, in other words it is all personal preference.

I enjoy my E-mag, and will probably never use another gun in competition. I enjoy my autococker, it is a good marker and I have fun tweaking and upgrading it, the complexity of the autococker is its greatest draw and asset, in my own opinion, of course. Both markers perform well but my E-mag is my primary and secondary marker, I have owned my automag for over two years and have had no failures of the gun whatsoever.

There are many possible upgrades for the autcocker and there are not many good upgrades for the automag that I would consider beneficial. Your choice is your own personnal preference just research it well and make an informed decision. As long as your happy with what your decision is, nothing else matters.

Have fun and I hope to see you on the field....

[Coaster]

question: Do you like relatively long and smooth(and light) trigger pulls or short and heavy trigger pulls?

[magman007]

ah, the mag trigger isnt that hard....