No RT triggers allowed in tournament, fine can I put an AIR valve in my emag?

[Dragoon]

I've noticed a few local tournaments have baned reactive triggers. So I figure okay, how about putting an AIR valve into my emag. Sure I may get some shootdown, but I don't think I'll shoot fast enough to notice any.

Can you guys think of anything that may have to be changed of looked at to make it work. I was thinking maybe a change of the on/off pin perhaps. What's your thoughts?

Douglas.

[Muzikman]

Well, I am not sure if anyone thought about this, but there is no reason you could not take the manual trigger rod off the the Emag. It is not needed unless you want to shoot in Hybrid or manual mode. This would get rid of the possibility of the reactive trigger but still keep the recharge rate of the RT valve.

[FeelTheRT]

well.. people can cheat by just flipping the switch... And if you have a Warp Feed, reffs wont see what position your switch is in.

[Kaiser Bob]

Originally posted by FeelTheRT
well.. people can cheat by just flipping the switch... And if you have a Warp Feed, reffs wont see what position your switch is in.

Flipping the switch would only make your trigger pull have a lot of overtravel without a trigger pin.

As for the original question, sure you can stick an AIR valve in there, I would swap out your on/off parts from the emag valve to the AIR valve though. (On/off assembly, pin, quad oring etc.)

[FutureMagOwner]

you can but you could just put the gun in pure E mode

[magman007]

or, you could boycott that tournament for having un fair rules. It isnt fair to ban one legal thing because it is fast. If people sweet spot, then those are the people that need to be thrown out, not a whole marker. >Most people can firse faster on an angel than an rt (without sweet spotting) any ways, so why not ban them?

[Dragoon]

Muzikman,

Good idea. But wouldn't that mean having to buy a second sear assembly. Afterall I'm not about to try and put the rod back in and incur the rath of AGD for rod tampering

Kaiser Bob,

I didn't think the on/off assemblies were transferable between RT and AIR valves. Can they just be swaped?!


Douglas.

[Kaiser Bob]

Originally posted by Dragoon


Kaiser Bob,

I didn't think the on/off assemblies were transferable between RT and AIR valves. Can they just be swaped?!


Douglas.

Yep.

[BlackVCG]

Yes you can put an AIR valve in an E-Mag. You might be able to get away with transfering your on/off assembly out of your E-Mag valve into the AIR valve. This will keep you from having to grind down your AIR valve on/off pin. Make sure to transfer over the black quad o-ring out of the E-Mag on/off assembly.

If they ban the gun just because it has the RT valve, then for sure you'll have to put in the AIR valve. If the ban it based on how the trigger feels, then turn down the input pressure to the point that it feels like a regular trigger pull.

Quite frankly I wouldn't bother participating in any of those tournaments. If they're going to ban reactive triggers then they better ban Intimidators, Cockers with electro frames and all the other guns that have trigger bounce. Trigger bounce is just as easy to sweet spot as most RT triggers.

[Ityl]

take out your trigger rod, then it can only be electronic

[Dubstar112]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
If they're going to ban reactive triggers then they better ban Intimidators, Cockers with electro frames and all the other guns that have trigger bounce. Trigger bounce is just as easy to sweet spot as most RT triggers.

Yeah, I noticed that on my Impulse. If I hold the trigger just right, it will fire just like a rt trigger would. It bounces into a sort of f/a burst then stops when i move my finger. Pretty sweet

[FeelTheRT]

Originally posted by BlackVCG
Quite frankly I wouldn't bother participating in any of those tournaments. If they're going to ban reactive triggers then they better ban Intimidators, Cockers with electro frames and all the other guns that have trigger bounce. Trigger bounce is just as easy to sweet spot as most RT triggers.

Although i see you point but i think this is untrue. Trigger bounce happens on most electronics that have tons of kick. Most tournament players worry more about accuracy than ROF so they do not used dropforwards which results in less kick from the marker. I meen i see where your going here but i just think the RT trigger scenario is completely different from electrnoic bounce.

[magman007]

[BlackVCG]

All I'm saying is that both methods can put out some insane ROF. Both can be controlled.

I believe that much of their reasoning for banning RT triggers is to keep Tippmann RT's out of the event because the Tippmann RT trigger is basically in runaway all the time. I'll bet since it's a local tournament, more people will be shooting mid-grade guns and RT Tippmanns will be fairly prevelant. Instead of them thinking about the E-Mag and RT, they just banned RT triggers to keep out Tippmann RT's. What I would do is show up with your E-Mag w/ the RT valve and show them that it's controllable. If they tell you that you can't use it, then try to make your case against it, but if not, then put in the AIR valve and it will be fine.

[Dragoon]

Thanks for the input guys.

I'm actually not doing tournaments these days (work is keeping me away) but I wanted to know my options were, and be ready, just in case. It's good to know I can still use my emag if I wanted to switch valves.

Black I think your right. I don't think the organizers are targeting emags or RT's specifically. More probably they had a problem with Tippmanns, or a particular individual and a runaway trigger, and this is a knee jerk reaction to it.

As for rate of fire in a game, I agree with magman007. I think rate of fire if overemphasised. I don't think I have an overly fast trigger, but it doesn't seem to hamper me in a game. I'm not much for the spray and pray mentality. I tend to choose my shots and try to keep on the move. As for sweetspotting in a game. I've never been able to do it.

Douglas