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  • cphilip
    Former Moderator

    • Jun 2026
    • 16216

    #1

    Lets talk Halo B...the truth uncovered!!!!

    Ok much ado and comments and such about this thing. I have seen others compare its size and such but no one mentioned anything about the weight (or at least I have not seen much on it here) That seems to be a valid issue with this thing. So I got my stuff out and did some data collection.

    First issue is size:

    If you hold this thing, right out of the box, your first impression is its a Blimp! But not realy... In comparison its not realy any bigger than a 12V VL Revy. The picts will show that and I believe another member already posted a good picture of that a few weeks back. Butterfingers maybe? Anyway, it's true its overall outer dimentions and it's height are not that much different... if at all. It is the same heigth and length and maybe a tiny bit wider but almost none. My first set of pictures will show that.

    Second issue is Weight:

    Well... here is were it comes apart a bit. Depends on how much is a problem for you but that is a quantum leap here. My second set of pictures will show that too. Seems a 12V VL revy with its two 9V batteries in it is 0.8 pounds and the Halo B with its 6 AA Batteries is 1.4 Pounds Making the Halo B .6 pounds more. Now some of that is in the batteries. In fact I found .2 pounds of it there.

    Even so I notice the battery case in the Halo B has a 9V connector that attaches it to the AA carrier assembly there may be a way to run this thing off of 9V's and cut some weight. But since Odyssey says not to use a single 9V there as it may not have enough amps to pull the motor. These things are much more powerfull than a VL so they need juice. So we need to look into the possibilty of running them off of two 9V and how much battery life that would give us. But I fear not as they say this at the Odyssey site: A- Any type of AA's can be used. From NiMH rechargeable to the cheap discount brands. Lithium's provide the longest life and are very light. Do not attempt to use another size battery such as 9 volts. They can not provide the current required for optimum performance. The 6 - AA's provide an amazing long battery life (20,000 rounds they claim) so you would have to give some of that up if it can be done I should think. Not sure it can.

    Conclusions and observations:

    This sucker is heavier. Enough to notice. Can you live with that? I guess it depends on you.

    If you were a back player slinging paint out of a HROF marker you certainly may chose too. A front player concerned with the lightest possible set up and who may only snap shoot may not want one of these. And I guess that depends on the team make ups too. In a three man, only one of you may carry it. In ten man, maybe five of you.

    Me? I got one and think I am going to go out and play with it a while and reserve judgement on how much the weight affects me. But I am not selling my VL right away! I may find going back and forth between the two for certain situations may be just the thing for me. I suspect it will be a nice thing to have that choice.

    So the questions I think you need to ask yourself are these:

    1)Do you need the Feed ability supremacy of the Halo B?

    2)Can you stand the weight gain on your set up to get it?

    Those are things you need to decide on before you buy one. Or like me have both!!!!

    References: http://www.odysseypaintball.com/main.html

    Picts coming up....
    Last edited by cphilip; 09-10-2002, 11:38 AM.


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  • cphilip
    Former Moderator

    • Jun 2026
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    #2
    Size comparison shots...


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    • cphilip
      Former Moderator

      • Jun 2026
      • 16216

      #3
      another...


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      • cphilip
        Former Moderator

        • Jun 2026
        • 16216

        #4
        Size comparison shots...


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        • cphilip
          Former Moderator

          • Jun 2026
          • 16216

          #5
          And another


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          • cphilip
            Former Moderator

            • Jun 2026
            • 16216

            #6
            One more here


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            • cphilip
              Former Moderator

              • Jun 2026
              • 16216

              #7
              Battery stuff...


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              • cphilip
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                • Jun 2026
                • 16216

                #8
                More battery stuff...


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                • Dayspring
                  aka- The Day Wang

                  • May 2001
                  • 9664

                  #9
                  Nice work Uncle Phil. This leans towards the Technical Roundtable forum and is a great post for everybody!

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                  • shartley
                    paintball player
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 9169

                    #10
                    Thanks Phil... good write-up.

                    I am still waiting for them to send me one for evaluation.....

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                    • cphilip
                      Former Moderator

                      • Jun 2026
                      • 16216

                      #11
                      Well not very perfect as far as technical or I woulda had to drag all this stuff to a analytical scales... but mostly observtional.

                      Might be a long wait Sam. But I must say that they sent me one promptly... but right after payment!


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                      • Vanced
                        I'm Old Skool, Not My Game
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 489

                        #12
                        Thanks Phil

                        Phil,

                        Another fine piece of actual useable info with numbers and pics to back it up.

                        I for one will give a thumbs up to the Halo-B over my 12-V X-Board Revy based on my use of it, but for more than double the cost in my eyes on performace alone as my basis for judgement not price. If price is a concern it may be worth considering the value to you.

                        and #2 - and an Issuse that Phil didn't address is that in my eyes, and for my style of play the weight really isn't an issue, but bulk is. and to me you have to put the Halo-B in a comparision with a Warp+Revy Combo to achive a performace comparison. And I for one have always preferred and more streamlined less bulky gun. And with all performance issues aside in the guns and hoppers that's why I love my mags over any cocker, and why I love my Halo-B , over a Warp+Revy Combo. For a similar performace Mag+Halo-B = a Simply powerful combination.

                        But would be curious to see how much a Set up Warp+Revy Combo is vs the Weight of the just the Halo-B?

                        NOTE: as a disclammer: I know the Warp+Revy Combo addresses Hopper hits & Profile, but for my style of play, 90% of balls that would hit my hopper would catch the top of my mask as well, and they have never been a problem. ( Back to my streamlined Gun Prefernce for other issues for my prefrence to be able to shoot either hand and to both directions easier)

                        Again thanks for the info Phil,

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                        • mezpo
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 2

                          #13
                          good job phil....charlie and i were wondering what the actuall weight difference was. Any luck with that tank or the emag? did you get air? Charlie and i did some tests of our own. we put the halob up against a 12volt revvy with xboard. 12volt revvy emptied in about 15 seconds and the halob emtied in approximately 11 seconds. That is a huge difference when it comes to rate of fire. Those tests were rough tests, we may do some more accurate tests later on. We used the same amount of paint in both hoppers. Some people complain that the halo's do not hold as much paint. Well we checked this as well. The halo b held 10 less than the revvy. we had the revvy holding 16 more but it would jam and not feed when you turned it on.

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                          • gatorchris
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 46

                            #14
                            Ive been playing with a B on my timmy for a few months now. I also have two of my front guys using them on timmys and the other backer using one on a timmy. One of the fronts is in the 5'4" range, small guy, and he doesnt complain about the weight or size. I can add a couple of comments about usage though.

                            The feedneck on the B does NOT like fluted rises. That would be a rise with an interior shaped like \_/ as opposed to |_|. The 2k2 timmys have a fluted neck and we have had 4 bodies crack at the feed neck, and its always at the top, not close to where there is most pressure (the bottom). I have a theory that its bowing the plastic enough to break it at the top, but I dont have anything to back that up beyond a hunch. The GZ feed tubes are straight, and we havent had one of those break yet. FYI, the ones that broke were on both front and back guns, and they didnt break in game, it was in trying to remove the halo from the feed tube every time.

                            The Bs dont like to work after breaking paint in the drive cone area. Played a nasty tourney this weekend in Houston (on the heels of Tropical Storm Faye) where we had lots of intermittent rain. I was shooting Ultra Evil (very brittle stuff, almost like a quail egg) The shell on evil does not like rain, it immediately bubbles the shell and causes it to stick to anything around it. Got a few that stuck together and jammed trying to get down the feed neck, and wound up breaking. The occluded eye mode works well, it was completely useable, which is a plus. After that game I turned it off, and it never came back on. We had back to backs the entire finals so I had to ditch it because I didnt have time to break it down to clean it.

                            I just want to give everyone a heads up, do not use this as your ONLY loader, keep a revvy in your bag of tricks as a backup. You never know when ma nature isnt going to cooperate and give you conditions that arent suitable for the B's power. But when the sun is shining, it just cant be matched, it gives you so much versatility you forget how much its worth. When I had to use the revvy I had trouble shooting with my gun at funky angles because it wasnt being force fed anymore, really stunted the game Im used to playing. It is a super tool, but its not the only one you need in your toolbox.

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                            • cphilip
                              Former Moderator

                              • Jun 2026
                              • 16216

                              #15
                              Good Job on that end Steve. FYI people Steve is one of our club officers and he has one of these on loan to test and give feed back to the rest of us on. So you now have some more numbers to go with.

                              Steve, one question...Did they both have balls all the way to the neck? Seems the halo has a long neck too.

                              No air yet steve may go today. Any luck on the SCUBA fills?


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