Automag... A tourney gun?

[Magluvr]

I think that the 68classic or Mini is a good tournament gun. Just go with a good barrel, n2 (or a good 2nd reg), level 10 and you will be set. Because it is the skill that counts, anyone can spray and pray.

[Skoad]

The mag is great, but i think it could be even better if it was lighter. It is REALLY heavy.

[Shirow]

You think mags are really heavy? I don't think they're too bad...

For tourneys, I can't see anyone complaining about using a mag w/ level 10, a retro valve and a warp.

[Frydrice4you]

mags and tourneys

I think the mag can work well with very few upgrades. All u need is a decent barrel, revy, and nitro tank. (getting a nitro tank is still cheaper than getting a good co2 setup). And depending on what u like a drop forward or foregrip. Thats all i have on my mag and I still hold my own against the local tourney team. It is much more the gun that the person. I laugh at people who blow all their money on upgrades and still suck.

[yeahthatsme]

to whoever said that he gets overwhelmed by e-guns at rec play i held my own with a mag with retro and inteli for atleast 3-4 minutes against a matrix and 3 spyders. i also took out a guy with a sweet impulse. its all how you play the gun. i held my own against 5-6 people with more jumping in periodically. if you put a retro, inteli, revvy, hpa or n2, and a good barrel with a good paint match + some skill you can easily when a tourney. i am gonna play in a tourny soon with a mag.

[Shamu]

a classic mag with no powerfeed is not a tourney level gun, in my opinion. a powerfeed mag is a local tourney level gun. why, you ask? well, the feeding rate on a classic mag coupled with the stock parts could shoot well enough to play (if shot using nitrogen), however, with the increasing rate of fire even at the local level... it just won't work well. i'd say the powerfeed mag would work though.

[virus]

hmm...lets see... my local field had not workin air compresser today... so i had to dig out all the parts i needed to run co2.... boy was that a chore... digging up a bottom line.....

needless to say i was still firing just about as fast as i do when i have my retro on it....

even teh E-totes at the field didnt notice i lost maybe 2-3 bps... the only thing that tipped them off was i took off my warp and was running a remote... (24oz tank stuck into my 4.3 dim pack...

so the only thing not stock on mine today was the lvx kit, 12v x-rev, zgrip.... and runnin on co2, w/o a x-chamber.... (couldn't get it off my old pos griffen).... kept the fps with in +/-2 all day...

so yes the mag is pretty much ready out of the box as a good tourny marker.....

[Wc Keep]

at the last ao day there was a mini tourney that you could only use agd products in. that meant that emags were being put up against regular mags and 68 mags were going up against emagnums. the 68 mags held their own. i was one of the ones using a 68 and i did fairly well.

the ones who said it how you use the gun are right. with 2x frame i can rip on my mag like theres no tomorrow. with a retro and lvl 10 ill be able to rip even faster.

[rhetor22]

i would gladly take my ray into a tourney. Its just the same as any other gun.

I would feel much more confident with my ray also. An electro would just put doubt in my mind.

Doubt never comes into mind while using my mag of course. Its a great little gun.

It ain't the size of the gun that matters, its how you use it.

[Shamu]

powerfeed automags can be made into tournament guns. let's face this one fact though guys, with a classic mag nearly all stock (add a barrel and air source), you would have to be an extremely good player to pull something off at a tournament, and very few of us are that good. sure, we've all had great days, and i'm sure we've all had bad days. we can't all say that we're bill ceranski's from aftershock, or even manny...

at our skill level, the gun you use will shape your play somewhat. even if the only thing holding you back from winning with say... a classic 'mag is your mental block about the gun being good enough, that can still stop you from winning. we are human beings, and if we are convinced that our equipment is sub-par even a little bit, it can affect our performance overall.

i'd love to sit here and say that the player is what counts 100% of the time and not the gun, but i just simply can't. it's not the case. take NPPL Pro player A, versus NPPL Pro player B. Give Player A an Extreme E-mag that has all the goodies wanted and needed. Give player B a Classic mag with a barrel and air source. if the players are of equal skill, what happens? i would say that more than likely, Pro Player A will win.

I'm not trying to flame all of you who said that the player is what counts. It really is... but when you examine 2 tournament players of equal skill, the equipment is what makes the difference...

[RetroEclipseMan]

I totally agree that it is the player and not the gun that matters. You do have to look at what position you're playing though. I don't think a bone stock 68 Classic would be a worthy gun for a back player who has to shoot a lot of paint fast to cover the front guys.

[misfit]

im also "it sthe player not the gun guy" this kid i was playing with had a rebel (low end one with verticle tank) said no wonder your good look at your gun.(emag) i said find trade, and i played teh rest of the day with the rebel. no problems.

[SiLeNt X]

I dont think a stock 68mag with a barrel will ever be in the hands of a pro team at a major tourny unless if they are paid very hansomely. The other day I used a angel and did better with it because I could put more paint in the air and the result:more paint on my opponits

[paint magnet]

You could say the same thing about stock cockers. BM's and STO's and the like are considered tourney guns, so why not the stock ones? IMO, it's the same with the mags. They just don't have all the goodies. As long as it shoots and won't break, any gun can be used, and using a gun with a slower ROF will show the player's true skill. (look at Total Grief for example)

[Shamu]

to truly compare its tournament capabilities, you really would have to clone yourself, then give yourself #1 an IR3 Angel, then give yourself #2 a bone stock classic mag. who wins? most of the time it will be yourself #1 with the IR3. granted, against players of lesser skill, a stock mag could be used to win, but when playing against players at a higher skill level, equipment can make some of the difference. not all, but some.