Automag... A tourney gun?

[TRIAD]

I sure do love when people compare a 1500+ dollar gun to a 300 dollar one. DANG, my friend's ferrari sure is better than that stinky Mazda MPV. Now, compare Xtreme to IR3, there ya go. Although the extreme is less expensive.

[Shamu]

I know full well that that is not a fair comparison, but if you would read my post and look at my intentions instead of making fun of me.. you would see that it works for what I am trying to prove.

Many people have said that the player is all that matters, and that the gun doesn't matter as long as you are a skillful player. I agree with that, to an extent, but it fails to work for every single case out there. It only works when your skill level can make up for the lack of better equipment.

When you go to a tournament, and you face players of equal or better skill level than you are (we're not talking recreational newbies and walk-ons here. so, the guy with the example of the switching guns with a rebel doesn't work because it was recreational from what i gathered, and the question is about tournaments) equipment can make a difference. Think about it... if a gun shoots faster and more accurate, it will eliminate a person better than a gun that is less accurate and shoots less quickly. I am saying this keeping in mind that you will face players of equal or better skill in a tournament. Now, if you are the best player in the entire world, and you will never ever face another player of better skill, please email or pm me. I will pay you to be on my team.

Let's face it though, we aren't all the best players. We could be some of the best from our area, but there is no way we are the best in the world. So, sooner or later, you will face someone of equal or greater skill. In that case, if you have less or equal skill, and you don't have the equipment advantage... you probably won't win. The player is not the ONLY factor in a paintball game. It is the largest factor, but not the only factor.

Ever played with a mismatched paint/bore combination? It sucks doesn't it? You either break paint, or your balls go everywhere. What determines the paint/bore match is what you put on your gun. Better paint/bore match equals better accuracy/ efficiency/ consistency (in some cases). With those advantages, you can get better shots on people. If you can change the paint/bore match with your mind powers instead of your equipment, please tell me how you do it... and don't tell me that different tourneys don't use different paint sizes, either. I don't buy that crap.

I could go on and on about the effects of using nitrogen, and electronic triggers, and better barrels... but you all know about that, right? I won't go on and bore you with any more of a long post than I have to to prove my point. You'd all rather be playing with an Angel IR3, or an Extreme E-mag... *insert gun of choice here*. We can't just decide to accept the "feel-good philosophy" that all that will ever count is our skill. Equipment will always count in every aspect of life... no matter what your wife or girlfriend says...

[circus5]

Automags and the history of tourney paintball

I'm surprised that no one mentioned yet that the automag was the first semi to make it big on the tourney scene. Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but i think the mag was the first semi used by the winning team at a major national tourney (team swarm or storm or something along those lines?). There was a time (long before i started playing)that there was next to nothing on tourney feilds aside from mags and cockers. And with the lvl 10 out im expecting to see a return of mags on the tourney feilds. But aside from history the mag has the one thing that so many newer guns lack, Reliability. put any decent player behind a reliable gun and he will clean house. example, when i randomly decide to play ball and don't want to go home to grab my gear i grab a rental (prolite at my home feild) and it never slows me down.

[MinimagRockin']

shamu you said it with that last post: you'd have to clone yourself in order to make the gun your usings' advantage noticeable. If your playing someone else theres a 99.9% chance that one of you is better than the other and this goes for pros as well so pro A with mag and pro B with $2000 paintball gun still would come down pretty much to who is more skilled with the scales helping out mr. $2000 paintgun ever so slightly (almost negligble). Also I'm assuming that this "stock" mag should be powerfed with hpa, a decent barrel, and at least a rev. With such a setup your gun should be just as reliable as any other gun out there so now all your talking is a couple bps, at best, slower...that's not a deciding advantage for mr. $2000 gun if you ask me.

[MinimagRockin']

Upon pondering this thread futher I have come to the conclusion that every pro team must be sponsored by the company of the gun they are using (if im wrong correct me)...so if AGD could sponsor more pro teams you would see a bunch more pros using mags