Concerns with extreme emag

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by Vanced
it is how we have fun on a weekend, but how he puts food on the table

This is so true.....we are the armchair athletes debating whether Jordan should or should not have come out of retirement. I think it is safe to say that almost all of us don't know anything about getting a marker through research and development through manufacture. That said......

Originally posted by Snooky
big time company in the industry making other companies having to have better standards of quality and performance making it better for all of us.

I thought this was already the case. We've received alot of innovation from one company. Tom's comment about six months appears like an overestimate. Level 10 just came out and already we are saying, "AGD is just sitting on these Extremes and relaxing. They need to start producing, coming out with new products, etc." To think that just a little while ago we were debating whether Tom should be accepted into sainthood for coming out with the Level 10

[SSMercury]

I could feasibly order an Extreme at this time. GOing to wait until next year though (not like I've a choice anyways). But I was thinking about waiting and getting the 2nd generation of SFL, if I like it's milling. I don't like the CnC Extreme design particularly. It looks too much like a trophy or something, the way it flows.

Anyways, Tom, what are those thingies in the first picture?

EDIT- Half a MILLION DOLLARS in "PARTS"? WOOW.

[Shirow]

I just got done upgrading my mag, so I won't be getting one for quite a while :) Nice to see they're being made though. I think it's kinda cool to limit the supply for a while - makes them a lot more desirable to the gottahaveits out there

[Dayspring]

I like the fact that you could by the lowest model marker that AGD designs, and through the course of the year, bring it up to th RT Pro standard. How many companies can produce this type of upgrade path and this level of quality & service?

I believe that Tom has a master plan on how the Extreme will be rolled out. You can't seriously think that he'd come up with a new marker with all the cool features people have been asking for and just sit on it. WRONG! He's a smart guy! We should trust in that. Yes, the 150 limit kinda sucks, but with a marker of this complexity level being created and only been out since this summer, it's an accomplishment to get this far.

We also have to look at the economics of the situation. Supply and Demand. When the PS2 came out, there was a HUGE demand for them. Supply was so limited that people were paying through the nose for them. I believe the same will happen here. There is already a buzz about the new Extremes. (Just look at the big events- IAO, Shatnerball, World Cup) With a little more push from AGD, they can become "legendary" and people will want them more than they do now. Demand will be so high, that Tom will HAVE to ramp up production. And in the end, we'll all be happy.

To conclude- We complain that nobody outside of AO knows about the Extreme. Well, who does that fall on? AGD partly, but also on us! Word of mouth is the BEST marketing tool around. Let the rental guys at the field shoot your Emag. Show them how the Warp Feed works. Stick your finger into your Level 10 equipped marker. (Did this at Skirmish's World Record Game and drew a crowd, including the owner) WE have to be the marketing force behind AGD. We sing the praises to Tom here on the boards. But that's singing to the choir. We need to yell from the mountaintops and from the valleys below- AGD Rules because QUALITY ALWAYS SHOOTS STRAIGHT!!!

[aaron_mag]

Like what Dayspring had to say except one thing.......sorry I'm not sticking my finger in there

Yeah I know it has been demonstrated to be safe but it would be just like me to have reassembled level 10 incorrectly that day. Consumer loyalty only goes so far and risking appendages is my limit:) .

Besides I wouldn't want to listen to my mommy say, "If Tom Kaye jumped off a bridge........."

[pito189]

Originally posted by Dayspring
With a little more push from AGD, they can become "legendary" and people will want them more than they do now. Demand will be so high, that Tom will HAVE to ramp up production. And in the end, we'll all be happy.

To conclude- We complain that nobody outside of AO knows about the Extreme. Well, who does that fall on? AGD partly... AGD Rules because QUALITY ALWAYS SHOOTS STRAIGHT!!!

I have been thinking of this lately. What is the best way to get your name out there. Get a pro team using your products and sponsored by you. Thats how kingman did it, they went out an bought Bad Company out.

Why could AGD not do this? Aftershock for example. Manny already plays for them and shoots an E-Mag, given it is shocktech, but all the same. If AGD were to go buy out a team, and have them shoot only AGD guns, then this would get AGD's name out to the nation, heck even to the world.

No fancy closing remark, you guys just tell me what you think about that????

[davidb]

Or they could have the best of both worlds and use the SFL E-Mag, supporting both Shocktech and AGD. It shouldn't be that hard to get them to use their own top-end marker...

[FrAuStY]

Well since everyone else had something to say... and I just sat and read the whole post with a devilish grin on my face, I guess I should throw my two cents in as well.

First... as for the fishbowl, yes...I have noticed that we here on AO are very privvy to AGD related products, hell we got to test the LVL10 kit before anyone else! But thats the best part. We know about this fantastic marker that will be upon the playing world soon. I don't know about you..but I actuually like the whole "mag" myth. I mean... would you rather own an extreme and be up against 3 cockers, and two angels, or 3 extreme emags and two angels? Hell may even be 5 extremes if we're not careful. lol.

Now from the business standpoint I'm sure Tom wants to see the last scenario But from my playing standpoint.. I want to be King... I want to be the one with the only extreme on the field. So I can hear people complain and moan that it shoots too fast.. or they can't even play against a marker like that lol. Thats what I want.. if it were up to me..only I would have an extreme. I'd be king.. king of the hill if you will

[Brak]

agreed

your right. they arent meeting demand with their supply. but someone else had a point. there are only a few months left this year and as long as they pump out some more emags in time for the holiday season and eventually spring they will be set

[freek133]

AGD will still be making regular emags right?

Just looking out for the po boys who dont mind lugging around the extra weight for a while

[RetroEclipseMan]

I gotta agree with Frosty on this one. I mean I would like to see more mags out there at my local field but it is kinda cool to be different from everyone else and know that even though everyone has an angel or cocker that my mag can still compete with them and most likely when I get an extreme next summer I will be the only one at the field with one.

It is frustrating to know that it will take till next year before there will be more but like it was already said there are only a few more months left in the year and it getting close to winter so the tourny season is winding down so ther isn't much to worry about. The thing that kinda makes me a bit frustrated is that now that I want to order lvl 10 is that I probably won't be able to get it for another couple weeks due to backorder but I guess I'll just have to play on and not worry about it and keep the squeegie handy.

[riooso]

I worked the system and had some relatives overseas buy me 2 markers in Europe. Standard Black. I do not know the market for standard Xtremes but I routinely loan out mine so that people can use it during woods ball. I am creating a market by letting them use it and they love
the Xtreme! There a lot of players out there who want a marker that is more durable than the C&C and would love to get their hands on one of the standard models. Just an idea, if the standards came out they could be upgraded if someone wanted a C&C or an Aluminum valve. If I want the C&C I will buy the body down the road and I already have a spare valve so getting my hands on an Aluminum version is no big deal.

Just a thought,
R

[Sledgehammer]

Hehe, I already got mine in May

And when I let people shoot it they all love it. But then, the Xtreme is not (yet) oficially available in Germany (like the standard E-Mag) for the old infamous reason...

Which BTW served Tom pretty well in the old days, since Automags had a huge head start over here, when it took forever to legalize the cocker. So every tourney team was shooting Mags (I'm talking about the pre electro times here).