Whats Up With The Extreme's Annodize?

[magman007]

ok, then explain me this, why does the battery pack seem damaged? Also, why have i herd problems of extremes not being able to be annoed correctly? why were so many sent back to pk because they looked like crap?

Tom, by no way is this a personal attack, and i remember you saying that on the tour, that this would be yours because of such poor matching. But, if you were going to display one, even if it was your personal marker, wouldnt you display one that matches correctly?

Also, why are extremes for sale now any ways? why arent all the sfl's up and completely retrofitted? If a person purchases a marker first, shouldnt it be completed first?

I understand the pre order process, but when do we get ours?

[jah871]

Originally posted by vf-xx
I think you guys are forgetting something. A picture is no substitute for seeing something in person. I'm inclined to beleive that that the Tequila fade breech actually matches.

Camera's can play some tricks on the eyes, Red eye anyone? Come on people, have we not taken enough pictures with flashes to realize that picts can be QUITE deciving?

i agree

[Shirow]

Hell, as long as it worked, I'd take a black extreme with a pink breech - unless color has started affecting the performance of it :)

I understand where you guys are all coming from but it's not the end of the world that some people are making it out to be..

[AGD]

I have to tell you I walked away from the computer really upset this morning because of this thread. The tequilla really did look fine in person and looked NOTHING like the pic.

There are a lot of parts to match on our gun compared to others and this is the shake out run for what color combos to use. We got ever color combo we could think of to try them out. A bunch did come out crappy and we sent them back for re-ano before the show. These guns are NOT FOR SALE and are going to special people involved with the company.

Of the 12 guns we have here only a couple look off. The silver and black fronts can't possibly look bad because the silver has no color and the blacks always match.

So, based on what we learned and what you have said here, you can forget about any other colors in the front besides silver and black. If you want something fancier buy a raw gun and get it done yourself, that way we are not resposible.

AGD

[jah871]

Originally posted by AGD
So, based on what we learned and what you have said here, you can forget about any other colors in the front besides silver and black. If you want something fancier buy a raw gun and get it done yourself, that way we are not resposible.

AGD

Tom, I think you should keep making them in colors and not switch to just black and silver. I think many people will be disapointed with your decision, I know I will. Cliffio shouldn't have started this thread because you can NOT go by the pics. The flash could have cause the color to look different. I was at the IAO and you said at the doughnut orgy that the blue's were very hard to match up and I thought they looked very very good even though there were a few parts slightly different it color.

[Dayspring]

I agree. Don't change your plans because of 4 or 5 people. Remember, you can please most of the people most of the time but not ALL of the people ALL of the time.

If they don't like it, then they don't get one in fancy colors. Fairly simple.

And for you guys complaining- quit boo-hooing. Are you getting an Extreme right now? NO. So what does it really matter to you? AGD will get the bugs out of the system. They always do.

[Shirow]

I know, what bs..

'I was going to buy an Extreme, but now I won't because I saw some crappy photograph and the colors looked off.'

Then don't get one.. go buy a nice milled and annodized impulse instead I'll take an extreme, I'd like a nice fade on it - even if the breech does look off in a crummy photograph :)

[shartley]

[Thordic]

I think the answer is find a better place than PK for anno jobs.

The ones from Europe look amazing, why is their anno so good while PK's is poop?

[FrAuStY]

Originally posted by AGD
I have to tell you I walked away from the computer really upset this morning because of this thread. The tequilla really did look fine in person and looked NOTHING like the pic.

There are a lot of parts to match on our gun compared to others and this is the shake out run for what color combos to use. We got ever color combo we could think of to try them out. A bunch did come out crappy and we sent them back for re-ano before the show. These guns are NOT FOR SALE and are going to special people involved with the company.

Of the 12 guns we have here only a couple look off. The silver and black fronts can't possibly look bad because the silver has no color and the blacks always match.

So, based on what we learned and what you have said here, you can forget about any other colors in the front besides silver and black. If you want something fancier buy a raw gun and get it done yourself, that way we are not resposible.

AGD

Yet another example of "a few bad apples spoil the bushell". Tom... you haven't met me yet.. but you will at SC AO DAY :) And I'd like to say on behalf of all the Ao'ers here who know that the guns looked fine or just don't care, and are not passing judgment on them based on some snapshot pics. I couldn't believe what I read. This isn't an *** kissing post, more of an empathy post. I don't understand why a couple of people have to go and make false claims WITHOUT EVEN HAVING THE MARKER IN THEIR HANDS!

From the first pictures I figured it was the color correction on the camera as I know a company wouldn't dare go to an INTERNATIONAL event with 2nd notch products on hand and expect it to be accepted by the players and others! C'mon people.. cut Tom some slack! He's not stupid (look at the design) First off these were kinda rushed, and to have even 15 flawed out of the first 150 is not bad.... and I very seriously doubt if there's that many.

Also.. it's the first batch of a NEW design... things are gonna happen, and ANNO is the last thing I'd be worried about. If anything do as Tom suggested.. get a bare aluminum one and get it anno'd yourself if you're that ANAL about looks. I'd reallylike a bare one so I could polish it up all nice and shiny =) MMMmmm.. Anyway.. I had to get that off my chest. Too many people think everythings gonna be perfect, should I say want it perfect. Well sorry to break it to ya. NOTHING IN LIFE is perfect.

Tom,
Sorry they pissed ya off. You had good reason to be pissed off. I know I would have been had I just spent $500,000 on guns that haven't sold, and people start flmaing them over some "Amatuer" pictures of them. What ever you do.. please.. re-consider as said before.. You can satisfy most of the people most of the time, but you can NEVER satisfy ALL of the people ALL of the time. Please keep the colors! They're Soooo puuurrrty.

Peace you guys..and girls

[magman007]

Tom, let me be the first to appologize, it was not a personal attack on you or your company, im also sorry for using the tour you took your personal time to give me as an example. THat was low of me, and id like to express my deepest appologies. PLease forgive me, my father and i really appreciated everything agd had done for us. You even took the time to try and get us a behind the scenes look at the field museaum, To bad Dennis Wasnt there.

With that said, here are some more cares and concerns i have. First off, I would like to know, who is doing the anno? IT isnt chicago Anno is it? they were the ones who messed up alot of the AKA excaliburs.

As for those complaining, STOP IT. THe anno is not up to par on some of them. Lok at the black to blue, the breach appears to be too black for the rest of the marker, most others concour.

Form over function? BITE THAT! Your buying the extreme for form! thats a week excuse. And if i pay thoudsand some odd dolars, i want my freeking anno to match.

What if i want fancy colors? what if i do? Personally i dont, but having all black to something fades, or silver to something fades is stupid, im sorry. PEople want fancy colors, and you need to supply them. Dont do this because we were complaining tom, we were looking for answers, more to what problems yuor having,m and how can you fix them.

Go for the full fancy colors tom, just find a better anno place to do it. And to clear this up, I had found out that it is 99% sure there not using PK selectives. IM sorry for using that name in refference.

As for this topic, well id like to hear exactally what the problem is. THe heating thing is bs asfar as im concerned. The dying is done cold any ways. I want to know the problewms, and the solutions..

As for who posted that im not getting an extreme, well i had one on pre orderm and i may still have it, if the person i traded the pre order to isnt happy. I may not get my sfl in a week. IM very concerned. THat is why im pressing to find out the problems and solutions.

THank you for your time. Im very sorry tom, I should have never used the tour info against you, that just inst cool.

Your loyal customer- Bill Badnaruk

PS i will have the chile paintball videos to you shortly

[Obey]

Hmm....

Well regardless of the color flaws in some of the X-Mags at the World Cup, I think these markers are stellar. Some of you worry to much about the looks of the colors then you do with the actual performance of the marker it's self. I do agree that if you were to spend 1300 it should be perfect, however, note what Tom stated, "They are not for sale". Some of the posts should of just asked, why are the colors of the breeches so much different? short and polite.

[shartley]

[Automaggin2]

When i first looked at the photos, i did think hmmm, that anno does look a little off. then i noticed the top of the break matching, so i took it into photoshop 7 and fooled around with some levels and what not, and the mismatching color is def. from the angle the picture was taking at. The way the flash reflects off the anno alters the color. The breech is higher then any other part of the gun, so it doesnt look like it matches because of the way the light reflects off.

[Cliffio]

a few things, i can now see how fast everyone turns on their own opinion when tom throws down, anyways, SOME of the point has been overlooked but thats fine, ok lets complain about the picture, blah blah its bad, but i have news for everyone, these pics are going to be thrown around for the next 6 months or whatever, i think someone should get some decent pics if the marker does not look this way. but anyways......

Originally posted by jah871
Cliffio shouldn't have started this thread....

real cool, he drops a bomb and you throw my name down, alot of people agreed with me, even if it wasnt about the picture but the IDEA of the picture, and there are those markers that are not perfect. throw my name in the gutter, thats fine, you can think that i hate agd or think what you want, but im just merely looking at the photos how everyone else will look at them, do you think half of the people over at pbc or pbn are gonna look at that pic and say, "you know what, thats gotta be the flash" NO, i dont

Originally posted by Shirow
I was going to buy an Extreme, but now I won't because I saw some crappy photograph and the colors looked off.'

Then don't get one.. go buy a nice milled and annodized impulse instead I'll take an extreme, I'd like a nice fade on it - even if the breech does look off in a crummy photograph

you know thats part of the reason agd and every other dealer is in such a hurry FOR cup, because everyone debuts new stuff, because they want to sell their guns, and for the people not at cup pics are the only way to see the stuff, you all act like it isnt a big deal but it is, the extremes are a high end marker and for you to act like its no big deal if someone turns it down for an impulse if false, i KNOW AGD doesnt want that... so to me, you post made no sence


once again shartly is the light in the tunnel, but anyways, guys dont missunderstand i love the website, this has nothing to do with any attack on agd products, the extreme is a REAL nice milling shape, just that the milling may not be as hot as it could be, i was not, nor am not flaming any gun.


but the bottom line is 100% of the people agd is TRYING to get to with this new gun is all about function AND looks, and for alot of people that didnt go to cup, these kinds of pics are the only way they will get to see such a gun. you have to think outside of our little AO world, i bet if i posted this pic over at pbc or pnb you would have MAD people flaming it, you cant ignore the fact that people will see a bad anno, not a bad picture

tom, on a side note, i love what you have done with the milling, and the anno patterns that ive seen look hot, i know that silver and purple was REAL nice, i dont mean to discourage you, i was just trying to actually ask a question, more than start a flame war, im sorry if i did offend you, that was not my intent, nor am i saying what i said was wrong because i dont feel it was

Cliff