Whats Up With The Extreme's Annodize?

[snakestang]

I have seen the blue anno and I for one am sure glad they are not going to continue with that color. It looks nice but it just was not up to par. I have also seen plenty of pictures verifying that certain colors just dont match! This is not some kind of dream, its for real.

I personally dont care if they match or not, mine does and thats all that matters to me. A team member does still however have a purple c+c on pre-order and he has expressed valid concerns about the anno. I am not complaining or *****ing about this, I just want to know why some work out and some dont and what can be done to make them perfect.

For those of you out there that think you are going to pay 1400+dollars for an Extreme that has bad anno, you are kidding me right? Thats like going to your car dealership and telling them that you want the one with the messed up paint and you are still going to pay the same price as a perfectly good one because you dont want to wait for them to fix it. Thats rediculous.

Enough said! Just stick to certain colors that you know work or sell them as raw bodies...

[G-Rock]

First let me say a flash from a camera will change the hues of color drastically, especially at a close range.

As for the color thing, I really do not care about the different shades. I got to mess with the blue one at the Chicago WPF event when Tom let me see it. I really didn't notice the shades differences till I got it in my hands and he pointed out, could have been because I was holding Tom's marker.

And on that note, Tom you can send me any color you want, I will be happy (but if you could include a Black to Pewter fade in the order going to Wolf Hill I would appreciate it)

Chris Geiger

[magman007]

thank you again Sam, And tom om sorry again. I was also trying to express my concerns. MAinly because my dream marker is riding on an extreme, that being the sfl. The mill pattern imho, and Simon knows i feel this way, is better. But thats no matter. IM just worried. I was not trying to fuel any one, and if i did i am sorry. If you decide not to do crazy colors because of me, and a few other people, then well, i amy have to just go live in a hole. I dont believe i said any thing negative, but if it was conveyed tht way, than im quite sorry. PLEase accept my humble appologies.. and done be affraid if you here from jon there is a guy from chile weanting to talk to you on my cellphone.... Im heavilly considering paying the high fee to appoligize to you personally, i feel really bad i hurt your feelings. Maybe i will get to talk to you tomorow.....

[AGD]

Ok guys I am much better now. Being down here with little sleep and a constant barrage of people can drive anyone nuts.

I agree that you guys have a right to demand top notch quality for a top notch price. FYI these are not PK fades, they take 6 weeks and we would have had none for WC. They were done by A+ anodizing which is Art Demarko who does them by hand one at a time.

We have many more pieces to match than the average marker. Because they are a combination of extruded and machined aluminum parts they are very hard to match. In order to give you the quality you expect we have a limited range of options if we are not going to throw them away every batch.

Because of this we will not even try to match the front battery and mainbody so that leaves two options, silver or black in front. The rear is basically two pieces, the body and the frame so that is an easier matching job.

I will take good pics of the guns tommorow and post them so you can see whats up.

AGD

[shartley]

Good to have you back Tom. :)

[snakestang]

Now thats the answer we have all been waiting for! Glad to hear you got some sleep.

Thank you for the informative answers.

Chris

[BenD]

Originally posted by AGD
I have to tell you I walked away from the computer really upset this morning because of this thread. The tequilla really did look fine in person and looked NOTHING like the pic.

There are a lot of parts to match on our gun compared to others and this is the shake out run for what color combos to use. We got ever color combo we could think of to try them out. A bunch did come out crappy and we sent them back for re-ano before the show. These guns are NOT FOR SALE and are going to special people involved with the company.

Of the 12 guns we have here only a couple look off. The silver and black fronts can't possibly look bad because the silver has no color and the blacks always match.

So, based on what we learned and what you have said here, you can forget about any other colors in the front besides silver and black. If you want something fancier buy a raw gun and get it done yourself, that way we are not resposible.

AGD

Couldnt you just not ano them at all and drop the price a couple hundred... let people get their own ano they want and wont have to pay extra for it... then nobody will be able to say anything..

[athomas]

I wish for blue. I, for one, would like to get just a raw body, frame and battery pack to annodize in my own color (pewter blue). I guess I have a while to wait until all the original orders are filled before they start selling body kits.

[Raptor3359]

i dont know about u guys, but i think Tom's extreme looks amazing!

[Jonesie]

Any chances that you will sell the 'flawed' units at a close out price? I'm in the market for an E-Mag and a flawed Extreme would suit me just fine!

PS - This isn't a beggin' or rear-kissing post, more like a serious inquiry...

Thanks ~ Jonesie

[jah871]

Originally posted by Cliffio
real cool, he drops a bomb and you throw my name down, alot of people agreed with me, even if it wasnt about the picture but the IDEA of the picture, and there are those markers that are not perfect. throw my name in the gutter, thats fine, you can think that i hate agd or think what you want, but im just merely looking at the photos how everyone else will look at them, do you think half of the people over at pbc or pbn are gonna look at that pic and say, "you know what, thats gotta be the flash" NO, i dont Cliff

You were making assumptions about the anno job without even knowing if it was really off. If you were down at the World Cup and saw the xtremes in person it wouldn't be bad at all. I take Tom's word for them looking great in person because he said that the blue was really bad and i thought they looked very good at the IAO. I understand once the people on PBC or PBN see the pics they will think it doesn't match but once AGD gets them into production i'm sure that paintballgear.com or any other site will have much better pics of the gun up on their site.

Also I apologize for throwing your name in my last post and blaming you. Although it made me mad that just because a handfull of people, who havent even seen the xtreme's anno in person, were complaining about it not matching and now Tom is considering not even having them annoed in anything except black or silver.

[Kevmaster]

just to show you how easy our eyes are tricked:



yes, i know. i didnt believe it at first, but it is true A = B. do it in photoshop!

[Cliffio]

that was posted a few weeks ago, clever

[rudy]

every one has there own idea of whats ok and whats not but the main point of the extreme is the mass market, most of the people saying it ok also probably say the emag is ok, you people are great i work in retail and i wor with people like you every day. but for every one of you there is another 10 guys that wont buy it if it isnt perfect and cirtainly not for 1300$ , agd is makign the right move in limiting the colors to what they can easily match. I was just trying to help paintball is nothing like it used to be when i started if you wanted any color other then black you had to have it done your self with most guns, now days the entire burden seems to fall on the company which doesnt make it easy this is another reason production is gonna be low you. what they should do is get a base model into full production first make it black and start selling cheaper then work on the rest.

[yeahthatsme]

what about powder coating?