BK0 or Automag?

[mjs1217]

For a beginning-lvl player, which gun would be better? The automag would last alot longer i think, but it would be close to stock because i dont have that big of a budget. What do you all think? Automag or BK0?

[yeahthatsme]

i would say automag just becuase it is simple yet effective.

also, it could be the only gun you'll ever need due to the massive amount of high-performance upgrades available from agd and others. its the way to go.

[mjs1217]

If i got the automag i would also get a foregrip, bottom line, drop foward, 12v, and cheap nitro tank...an a barrel of course.

would this be good enough for tourney play?

[Xerces]

i would get the tko automag package from www.paintballgear.com
any gun is good enough for tournament play as long as it works. ive seen people play with spyders and i definately consider my mag to be superior to spyders

[Trench]

Mini mag if I was you...

[speedyejl]

BKO, if you upgrade that sucker all the way it will be perfect in near every way. Compared to my Mag my Bushmaster was so much more efficient. Efficiency was the only reason I sold my mag.

[pballguy17]

Hm, it's tough. don't get me wrong i LOOOOVEE my mag. but the only down side is ROF, w/o heavy $$$. the retro. it's about 200$-300$, and still can't compare with soem electro's. while a BKO, can b upgraded witha chaos chip and u can shooting 16bps walking a trigger, that u self modified. Granted, the BKO isn't the tube with a valve, barrel, and a grip frame, but it's not any angel to take apart. MAG's haev AGD trust customer service, as well as the star valve system. it's all waht u can afford, and how seroius u are about it. if u want to take paintball all they way up the tourny scale, u might want to get a mag, up grade it soem, than sell it for a super high end gun. or if u want to take it just mid level, i'd get the BKO, and just upgrade that, with th right upgrades u can take it all they way up to amauter lvl tourny b4 running into MUCH better guns, with much better players. ALSO, if u really want to get just one gun, and take it a long way, buy an impulse. they aren't very expenseive stock. and they can last ya to pro. hope i helped

[Pile & A Half]

I would get an Automag. There easy to maintane and nothing really to them. Little oil here and there and no problem. Besides you can up grade it to the shiznet and make it shoot awesome and look good.

[Angry Man]

Never used a bushy but the classic mags I've used I haven't much liked. To make them decent you need an intelliframe and level ten at least. Just not worth it because even then it'll be slower, less balanced, less efficient, etc.

[sniper1rfa]

get a level ten, tko package, and a drop. yumm...

[darklord]

Go with the mag. Mag classics and minis are pretty much the same. You really only need 3 or so upgrades to make it a real nice marker (I-frame, ReTro, LX, barrel, assuming you already have a motorized hopper), and they're simple to fix and take apart. On top of that they're reliable. I haven't had to sit out games to fix my gun now that I own my mag, which is a big plus IMO. Go with a mag and you won't regret it!

[speedyejl]

Just wondering how many of you have owned Bushmasters?

[TRIAD]

Never used a bushy but the classic mags I've used I haven't much liked. To make them decent you need an intelliframe and level ten at least. Just not worth it because even then it'll be slower, less balanced, less efficient, etc.

Nice thing to say on a site brought to you by AGD. I've heard of some problems with the BKO. 'Mags have a tendency to NOT have problems. They're really gas 'n go. A retro intelli 'mag can beat out an electro, and feels nice and balanced (especially with warp). Efficiency may be lower than SOME 'cockers, but a properly tuned 'mag will be a great gun. Let me say that my retro warped level 10'd intelli fires fast, NEVER chops, and has decent efficiency.

You have to ask what you want.

Do you want an electro with a spotty record (from what I've heard), that'll shoot fast? It may break paint, it may break itself, and there aren't many upgrades to bring it to a better-performing marker.

Or do you want the 'mag, which will be very reliable, durable, and can be upgraded as you see fit?

[Goldie D Pimp]

The first BKO's that came out had some problems. Just about every gun that I've seen hit the market has had some problems with the first run.

The new ones are great. I'd highly recommend them. They are light fast, and reliable. They can easily be upgraded as well. They use the same bolt, trigger, valve, high rise, barrels, grip frames as the bushy does. There are already quite a few places selling upgrades that will fit them.

The mag and the bko would both be good choices. However to get the peak performance out of each, you're looking at a less money to upgrade the bko.

A bko may not work as well as a retro valve mag, but you'll have to spend an extra $200 to get that valve. To speed up the bko (it's already capped at 14bps) you only need a different chip.

[speedyejl]

Wow, when recomending someone a gun know about both, just dont blindly recomend. Take a BKO add a Vapor Bolt/Valve/Trigger Chaos Chip, put on a PDS, Gels, Palmer Stablizer, you get an awosme gun. The trigger is much nicer than a Mag, and its 3 way adjustable, the marker and shoot at 17bps (not that most people can hit that any way), it gets 2250 shots off a 68/45, and is super consistent, the gun wont chop PDS, even w/o a PDS the bolt will stop on the paint since the cocking preasure is so low. And if somehow you get a break cleaning it is alota easier than a mag. Not to mention asthetically, it can be milled real nice, and annoed. I liked my mag but efficenecy, I got 750 shots off a 68/45 on my LX. Also price wise take that BKO setup I just showed, it cost $500, a tricked mag setup (LX, Barrel (classic dosnet come w/ one), retro, intelli, Classic PF mag, and a gas thru comes out to $750. $500 is different than $750. Conclusion, BKO can be better for cheaper.