chris lasoya

[Spaceman613]

As long as cheaters are looked upon as celebrities, things wont change. The mentality of "Who cares if he cheats, hes cool" needs to be the thing thats changes.

Until people see cheating as the pathetic thing it is, it will continue. There is no reason for these people not to cheat. i will use Salm as an example (hes a very public one). He cheated, got caught, admitted it. Then he got banned from NPPL (or PSP or whoever) for a year. So what? he can play for another team in another series.

If the paintballing communities opinion of cheaters changes, then maybe public humiliation will deter them. Imagine if Salm was marched through the WC spectators and media?

[RamboPreacher]

can't vote, won't pass "judgement" - never heard of the person.

[shartley]

Originally posted by RamboPreacher
can't vote, won't pass "judgement" - never heard of the person.

Dude! You must be a real Noob!

(inside joke.... hopefully you get it. )

[ogre55]

Originally posted by RamboPreacher
can't vote, won't pass "judgement" - never heard of the person.

And I think you are better off for it.

Ogre

[RamboPreacher]

Originally posted by shartley

Dude! You must be a real Noob!

(inside joke.... hopefully you get it. )

heheheh I assumed I would get "flamed" (okay, "kidded" might be a better term) for not knowing who it is, but honestly - nope, don't know (course never heard of that salman guy before all the hooplah either.)

[845]

I think Lasoya is/was still one of the best players but his fame got to his head. Also now that I think about it before maybe 2000 or 2001 he and Rocky were the only real paintball super stars out there.
I met Rocky and PB Arena and I thought he was a nice guy

[OldSchoolMag]

I really didn't want to read all these posts (no offense, but they're either one of two things) but I did, and I could have quit reading after the first 6 and still gotten the general idea. It seems we've got two types of people on this board - the cynics; who believe "cheating is here to stay, everyone does it but me, get used to it, etc" and the optomists; who feel that "only a select few cheat, and they wouldn't make it to the top by cheating, etc" and personally, I feel that you're both wrong (and I'm right, yay!). Or rather not that you're wrong, but just a little... off.

I think it's a mix of both - cheating is prominent, but not everyone does it. Just because you make it to the pros doesn't mean you cheat, and not everyone who's pro plays honestly. It's kinda old as it is - the whole cheating in paintball aspect, but honestly, sitting around moping about it (and no offense, but going to extremes with the "shooting the 7-11 clerk" weirded me out a little) isn't going to change much. But then what is? Sadly, but honestly, nothing. If there's a better way to win and it's easy, people will use it. The only way to get around it is to A) Put in place better reffing systems, B) Get a governing paintball body that is more than a name (whoa, someone who makes laws and enforces them!?! Shocking!), and C)Have more people advocating anti-cheating. If you see a cheater, call him on it, emberrass him, go as far as to boo him (no shooting people, I think you were going in the wrong direction with that one) as he walks off the field. If cheating wins you a prize that you don't want, who's going to cheat?

OSM

[alt01]

The guy came to bunker Lasoya, of course he's gonna shoot back at anything he can see, which would most likely be the head! It just happened that the guy took 5 quick ones to the same spot, this situation isn't any different than what happens in tournies and practices every day.

[blnk162]

Listen up all you haters

Chris Lasoya is an AMAZING PLAYER.

Quit hating on him, he's a really nice guy and an awesome character....

He cheats, everyone does, get over it and quit complaining, get some skill and shoot him out. End of story.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

What's the point of shooting them out if he's just going to wipe it? Might as well not try by your logic. Not everyone does, I don't, my team doesn't. Being a proffessional should mean that you don't either. Paintball has it backwards though. It's the pro's that teach the lower end teams to cheat. They see everyone around them cheating, then they're going to go and do it too, such as with you by your statements. It's pretty sad that people can't just play an honest game. And alot of these guys are considered "Adults". What a joke.

What really gets to me is the teams with the ego's. They go around talking so much smack and trying to be so big around everyone and they're the biggest bunch of cheaters around. I just don't understand the mindframe. I guess i never will.

[Brian68mag]

Originally posted by blnk162
Listen up all you haters

Chris Lasoya is an AMAZING PLAYER.

Quit hating on him, he's a really nice guy and an awesome character....

He cheats, everyone does, get over it and quit complaining, get some skill and shoot him out. End of story.

Seemed like a punk to me, not a good character at ALL.
I dont cheat, alot of people dont cheat, thats a fallacy if ive ever heard one..
How am i going to shoot him out when he wipes?
Amazing, yes he is, amazing that he hasnt been caught in his blantent actions and amazing he hasnt been banned by all leagues after some of this stuff he pulls and his attitude.
hhaha, people wonder why pball doesnt make it big on TV and has a bad rep, people like you buddy.

[elpimpo]

i agree with blink about lasoya being a good player but he cheats a lot. ive watchee clips were he cheats, ive played against him when he gets lit up off the break and dives on it. and just so you guys no he has been caught cheeting but he still does it. i dont think there is a way we can eliminate cheating but when pros do it thats stupid, it makes other people cheat against them and then everyones doing it. if your pro you shouldnt need to wipe but sometimes it happens.

[Shirow]

Sometimes what happens?? That you need to wipe?

He cheats, everyone does, get over it and quit complaining, get some skill and shoot him out. End of story.

'Get some skill' in reference to getting 'beaten' by a cheater is probably the lamest and stupidest thing that has been posted here thus far.

[50 cal]

And some people wonder why paintball isn't picked up by the mainstream media or sports outlets.
How many here don't think ESPN or ABC Sports hasn't already sent scouts out to tournaments and reported back to the main offices that "there is no way we should televise paintball." Too many jerks and hotheads.

Sorry all, paintball is a fringe sport till the sponsors act to clean it up.

[Pand0ra]

Lasoya is an awsome player. Probably one of the guys who walks the fields the best, and who can pictures the field in his mind very easily.

For the rest, I don't like very much his style of play. Basically he waits till there's an opening. If everything goes right the opposition is destroyed, otherwise he's out in 2 seconds .

And I don't like his tendancy to play on a lot. Last time I saw him he took a hit right in his face, but still took the time to shoot 2 players before leaving the field. I hate this attitude. You'll say all the pros cheats, because it's a part of the game, and I agree, but it's not a reason to do it this way.

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