chris lasoya

[yeahthatsme]

all you people that say cheating is part of the game are what keeps us from becoming mainstream. i think players like lasoya should clean up their act or find another sport.

[elpimpo]

you know i dont think that cheating is whats keeping us out. i think its the way people think of paintball. someone who has never heard of speedball or organized paintball think all paintball is is a bunch of kids running around with guns shooting each other. thats why paintball isnt televised that much.

[bofh]

Originally posted by blnk162
He cheats, everyone does, get over it and quit complaining, get some skill and shoot him out. End of story.

Perhaps *he* should get some skill so he doesn't have to cheat?

[giblit]

i think he is a great player and some of you guys are exaderating... to a certain extent dont you think its the refs fault for not spotting when hes hit... everyones cheated knowingly or not you cant deny it. and in tournament ball... it just brings out the worst in everyone thats playing theyll do anything to win. at my last tournament i got hit atleast like 20 times in my fingers/hands that i didnt call out for because the ref didnt see it. the way i see it and most players ive met is, if the ref doesnt see it, it never happened. i know ill get flamed by a bunch of people that say theyve never cheated which i think is a bunch of bull. i still think hes a great player

[einhander619]

Our sport will not advance beyond wrestling until people like lasoya and salm are eradicated from the face of paintball. Like many, I know the tourney attitude well, and I also know it won't fly in society unless it's on TNN or Jerry Springer. I don't care how good he is. I'm ashamed of his kind, and think twice about telling people I love paintball. Now I want to play this guy so I can bunker him. Probably wouldn't do me much good, though.

[i-luv-my-rt]

I really dont like this thread b/c Chris is a friend of mine. He is an amazing player cheating or not. It is very ignorant for this whole forum to gang up on one Pro player. What about Strange those guys can be some absolute *POOF*, but there awesome players.

You people can think what you want but he is awesome still one of my favorites and he is still Pro.

Warning: No cussing, or you will be banned. -Miscue

[TRIAD]

If he cheats to be amazing, he's not so amazing anymore. Anybody with half a brain can learn how to cheat, and apparently he's pretty darn good at it. What you said what VERY ignorant. You also didn't say he was "nice", go figure. So, you think cheating is ok then, because apparently there are no redeeming qualities in this person, just that he's your friend. That's just fantastic.

[giblit]

i think you guys are dumb to make such a big deal out of it he is a great player i bet most people out there cant beat him i know i couldnt.

[TRIAD]

Well if I could wipe all I wanted the match would go on for days, and days, and....well you get the idea. If you don't go out when your'e hit, well, that's the only way to get out of the game, so....yeah.

[giblit]

dude no one plays on the honor system. i sure the hell dont i keep playing till the ref pulls me thats the way most players play if youve noticed.

[TRIAD]

But if you wipe, and the ref doesn't see it, because you're REALLY good at it, then they can't pull you can they? You guys are digging your own graves with this argument. Hope you brought a ladder to get out.

[shartley]

Originally posted by giblit
dude no one plays on the honor system. i sure the hell dont i keep playing till the ref pulls me thats the way most players play if youve noticed.

[agdemagman69]

lol he is such a cheater

[shartley]

Originally posted by i-luv-my-rt
I really dont like this thread b/c Chris is a friend of mine. He is an amazing player cheating or not. It is very ignorant for this whole forum to gang up on one Pro player. What about Strange those guys can be some absolute dicks, but there awesome players.

You people can think what you want but he is awesome still one of my favorites and he is still Pro.

I personally do not associate myself with people who do not share at least my base ethics... and that includes cheating VS honor. Who a person hangs out with and who they consider their "friends", shows as much about them as anything else they do.

And I don't think there has been a single person in history that has not had SOMEONE like them, no matter how bad they were or what they have done. This thread is not ignorant. We expect pro players in any other sport to play with dignity, honor, etc. and if they do NOT, they are discussed as well. Once you get to that level you will be considered a roll model, whether you like it or not. And as such they are subject to public discussion, criticism, as well as praise.

If we stopped talking about any "negative" subject, or person we feel did something "bad" just because someone may "like" them, we would have nothing to talk about at all. If folks are willing to place someone on a pedestal for worship, they had better be ready to hear that not everyone agrees, even more so when they have valid reasons why they don't. This goes for Chris as well as anyone else. Heck, pee-ons like me seem to have to put up with it.... so should they. "Celebrity" does not mean "immunity".

[i-luv-my-rt]

Originally posted by TRIAD
Well if I could wipe all I wanted the match would go on for days, and days, and....well you get the idea.

That would be why refs are around. You guys act like these players cheat every time they get hit. Reffing has changed alot in a short time. NPPL refs are very good, they dont see everything that spectators see but thats the way all sports are. In one of my earlier posts i did say something about Chris being cool so read before you type.

Shartley- Well i guess me and you are different types of people then. I'm not gonna "hate" or flame somebody just because they are different than me. I know of many Winston Cup racers thaty cheat but it's the competition part in these sports that keeps me watching. You are very right about the examples these "role models" should set but would anybody idolize a clean playing loser, I'd give him props for playing clean but people wouldnt make videos and posters of those people. What i meant by ignorant is the fact that the forum users are only talking about Chris, when there are many more and worse players out there.(*Like usual Shartley I will have no hard feelings towards you in this discussion, I enjoy reading and debating the points being put forward. -plus the more I debate with you the more I learn how to do it better)