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  • boomerfoxtrot
    MOOSE
    • Aug 2002
    • 1565

    #1

    LP MAG *only problem with EMAG*

    I was at the field last saturday... I shoot a LX EMAG with a 68/45 preset 750psi tank....

    now, I love my EMAG.. it's FAST and it doesn't CHOP paint!

    some people cry about the weight, but they are flowers!

    the only "BAD" with the EMAG is the fact that it is not a low pressure gun!

    I'm getting about 1000 rounds from my tank at 4500psi...

    while, a friend of mine *shooting a 02 GZ* (on the same tank) is getting almost 1500 ...

    I have never really worried about the EMAG being a gas hog, but I ran out of AIR! =[ and LOST the game because of it!

    I am not going bigger then 68CI ...

    so, I guess I'm just wondering ... why are mags not low pressure guns? why do the best guns out there, have to be second in line b/c of air issues? seems to me, like you would have wantted to fix the air issue before the weight issue...

    and.. I doubt there is, cause I haven't seen it.. but is there any LP kit for the EMAG?
    The MOOSE is LOOSE!

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  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #2
    The internal reg reduces the pressure to around 400psi. Not low enough pressure? (Oh yeah- the LX uses a little more air than the non-LX version.)

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    • boomerfoxtrot
      MOOSE
      • Aug 2002
      • 1565

      #3
      400psi ???

      not hardly!

      I personaly think 300psi and up are gas hogs!
      The MOOSE is LOOSE!

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      • MrRottenTreats
        Registered User
        • Dec 2001
        • 254

        #4
        The reason that it is not more LP is that that would make the efficiency WORSE. I believe AGD did a large amount of testing to get the perfect pressure/volume for efficiency.
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        • Dayspring
          aka- The Day Wang

          • May 2001
          • 9664

          #5
          If I remember correctly, the final pressure on the ball is something like 80psi. Don't quote me on that though.

          And if you don't like it? Deal

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          • boomerfoxtrot
            MOOSE
            • Aug 2002
            • 1565

            #6
            well then.. if that is the case..

            WHY the HECK do I USE SOOOO MUCH gas?
            The MOOSE is LOOSE!

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            • freek133
              Because I can
              • Dec 2001
              • 366

              #7
              Doesnt it take the same amount of air/same amount of pressure to push a ball out of a barrel at 300fps?

              Just a question, i am not debating you moose, but wondering as well.
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              • Load SM5
                Scruffy Administrator

                • Oct 2000
                • 6772

                #8
                Low pressure does nothing for effeciency; take a look at shockers for example. Low pressure can be used to prevent paint chopping but in terms of effeciency and accuracy nothing comes out of it.


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                • boomerfoxtrot
                  MOOSE
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 1565

                  #9
                  well, I don't know .. I'm not a air tech..

                  that's why I'm asking questions..

                  cause I got shot in the BUTT a few times b/c I ran out of AIR!

                  and it's not cool to have a full 68/45 and drop 5 pods and a hoppper and run out of air on the 6 pod..

                  that's

                  200 + 150x5= 950 off a 68/4500 ..... not cool..
                  The MOOSE is LOOSE!

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                  • lopxtc
                    Unix Geek
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 2706

                    #10
                    300psi+ is a gas hog, yet the Impulse, Shocker, Matrix(even with bolt kit) all run at below 300psi and are known as some of the worse gas-mileage markers out there ...

                    Aaron

                    Originally posted by boomerfoxtrot
                    400psi ???

                    not hardly!

                    I personaly think 300psi and up are gas hogs!
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                    • boomerfoxtrot
                      MOOSE
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1565

                      #11
                      well, maybe my thinking is off...

                      I might of had a leak who knows.....
                      The MOOSE is LOOSE!

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                      • potti
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 124

                        #12
                        other things contribute to efficiency such as barrels and paint-to-barrel match. i do believe LX uses a little more air as was said by dayspring

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                        • Termite
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 107

                          #13
                          Pressure makes the valve work

                          The high imput pressure is what makes the mag valve the fastes on the market. If you go lower is will slow the recharge rate down. The most efficient pressure will vary with gun but I have a Viking that is very efficient because it was designed to be.

                          Boomer,

                          What kind of barrel are you using? What lenght? Porting? Paint to barrel match? What loader are you using? All of these factors will affect your efficency. Let us know what your set up is and maybe we can help ya get a few hundred extra rounds out of a fill.

                          Termite
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                          • cheetah256
                            I am root!
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 627

                            #14
                            wow..thats nothing compared to what i used to shoot, i used to shoot a super nova, and i got myabe 2 1/4 hoppers off of my 68/3k tank...thats around 550...

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                            • ah137
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2000
                              • 569

                              #15
                              First off, The pressure in the valve chamber has nothing to do with the pressure behind the ball. Also, It has nothing to do with how efficient the paintball gun will be. Just pulling numbers from different gun and comparing then will not work. Especially with the RT value; which is completely different than a typical hammer style valve?

                              And if you think some number or greater is a gas hog, well there is such a thing as volume. The lower the pressure the more volume you need.

                              Do a search and read up on this topic I m sure there is more info out there than this.

                              Later Hills
                              NVE-mag
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