Pan Am Las Vegas - Limited Paint Good/Bad?

[shartley]

Originally posted by pito189


Although a yeasty player might get more eliminations.... hehe

Seriously though. This brings up the same argument pump vs semi. It is personal choice what you play pretty simple. I do agree with paint manufacturers probaly not allowing every tourney to go to the limited paint scheme. They wouldn't make the money they do today. Just like the Oil manufacturers not being bigs fans of alternative fuels. How will they make their money if people fill up with cooking grease from home instead of heading to the local Minute Mart.

I agree with this to a point... but I don't think it is quite like pump VS semi arguments. It is about the amount of ammo allowed per player, not the method of firing.

(Added: I left the typo because it is funny. I didn't see it until you pointed it out though. )

[aaron_mag]

Bread...yeast I get it finally...

Some of the most exciting times for me playing is when I realize I am low on ammo. You keep opening your hopper and saying to yourself "got to make these last ones count".

Personally I think limited paint would make for more exciting games. Anyone watching Pan Am Las Vegas want to comment. Army?.....

[Automaggin2]

i like it, but then again i dont. i think limited to 6 pods is fine, but not 500. I also try and limit myslef now. i moved from mid to front and i used to shoot up to 5 pods a game, i now shoot probably 2 pods at max

[aaron_mag]

Okay here is what I don't get. You feel like 500 rounds is too much of a limit. Six pods is 840 rounds plus the hopper gives you around 1,000 rounds or half a case. At $60 a case that is $30 for one game of paintball (not day game). Now according to the US Government I am in the highest tax bracket possible...so if I feel that I can't afford to spend that kind of money then I can guarantee that some people shouldn't be spending that kind of money on one game.

I've been to some local tournaments but won't play anymore until they are limited paint formats. Don't get that much enjoyment out of shooting that much. Sorry I guess that in the end I am a rec baller and a newb. Of course I have this strange plan of hopefully having my house paid off by the time I am 40. Not to mention other investments....

[SHAG]

Limited Paint

HI,

Here is my concept of limited paint. What you can carry in one fill of your tank. If your marker can shoot 500 rounds on a fill or 2500 rounds, that is your limit. My E mag gets about an extra 200 rounds on a fill if I unload my pack and hopper. That is about 950 rounds right there.5 140s and 180 in the hopper

Seriously, limited paint is a good concept. Pam Am tried to take hold in the eastern part of the country but with no avail. Pam AM does really well in the west where I guess people don't shoot more than a few hundred rounds a day I hear play out west is totally different.

Limited Paint as a class in X ball might work and help legitimize the sport more. When you limit the amount of paint, you are giving another standard. It is forming a rule to a sport that is trying to become legit. For example, Baseball has 3 outs a team. Both top and the bottom of the inning are equal. It is not 4 outs for the home team and 2 for the visiting team.

I can go into a essay in how to make paintball legit or something along those lines but I am tired to write it all out.

Later,
Alan

[pito189]

Re: Limited Paint

Originally posted by SHAG
HI,

Here is my concept of limited paint. What you can carry in one fill of your tank. If your marker can shoot 500 rounds on a fill or 2500 rounds, that is your limit. My E mag gets about an extra 200 rounds on a fill if I unload my pack and hopper. That is about 950 rounds right there.5 140s and 180 in the hopper

Seriously, limited paint is a good concept. Pam Am tried to take hold in the eastern part of the country but with no avail. Pam AM does really well in the west where I guess people don't shoot more than a few hundred rounds a day I hear play out west is totally different.

Limited Paint as a class in X ball might work and help legitimize the sport more. When you limit the amount of paint, you are giving another standard. It is forming a rule to a sport that is trying to become legit. For example, Baseball has 3 outs a team. Both top and the bottom of the inning are equal. It is not 4 outs for the home team and 2 for the visiting team.

I can go into a essay in how to make paintball legit or something along those lines but I am tired to write it all out.

Later,
Alan

I don't see how limiting paint, and making it standard would do any good. I understand teams might have sponsorships or something along those lines. But it's not like other teams are limited to not carry just as much paint or more. Everyone can carry just as much as they want.

Late night ramble = over.

[SeeK]

Originally posted by shartley

You make it sound like the paint companies would go out of business if the tourneys didn't exist. Limited paint would probably save them $$$ because of the sponsorships. Limited paint would mean that the sponsorship would be "worth less" to the teams but also mean that the company could budget how much a sponsorship would cost. This would mean for a given budget they could sponsor more/smaller teams. How is this bad?

Limited paint format has more benefits:
Teams can actually budget how much a tourney will cost and save up. This will only make the number of teams in a tourney grow so increased entry won't really affect the teams except put a cap on expenses. This also allows smaller companies to sponsor teams.
The most immediate benefit is that the games will be closer to schedules because the fields don't have to be cleaned as often of the massive amounts of paint left after each game.

[einhander619]

Ltd paint format rocks! I played limited in the PanAm back when it was the Great Western Series. However, I think 200 rounds is a rather ill-conceived number nowadays. Since most hoppers anymore can't hold 200 balls, I think that the amount of paint should be 300, in two 150 round tubes, given to players as they enter the field. Whoever said conserving ammo is a rush is right on! There's nothing like having 15 shots left, and maling them count!

[shartley]

Originally posted by SeeK
You make it sound like the paint companies would go out of business if the tourneys didn't exist. Limited paint would probably save them $$$ because of the sponsorships. Limited paint would mean that the sponsorship would be "worth less" to the teams but also mean that the company could budget how much a sponsorship would cost. This would mean for a given budget they could sponsor more/smaller teams. How is this bad?

[aaron_mag]

Someone made an interesting point. Would more teams show up if there were more limited paint tournaments (as they could afford it???). If that were the case paint manufacturers might make about the same amount of money. Don't know if it is really true.....

[Spaceman613]

No... some teams are afraid of limited paint.

Maybe they need the insurance of extra paint on thier back. or maybe they just know they can finacially gain an advantage.

Ive found only the same number, and sometimes less, show interest in a limited paint format.

And the hardest part is, what is the limit? 500 bag per 3 man team? 2 pods? 20 pods per man

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by aaron_mag
Okay here is what I don't get. You feel like 500 rounds is too much of a limit. Six pods is 840 rounds plus the hopper gives you around 1,000 rounds or half a case. At $60 a case that is $30 for one game of paintball (not day game). Now according to the US Government I am in the highest tax bracket possible...so if I feel that I can't afford to spend that kind of money then I can guarantee that some people shouldn't be spending that kind of money on one game.

I've been to some local tournaments but won't play anymore until they are limited paint formats. Don't get that much enjoyment out of shooting that much. Sorry I guess that in the end I am a rec baller and a newb. Of course I have this strange plan of hopefully having my house paid off by the time I am 40. Not to mention other investments....

Well, big time tourney ball isnt for people who cant afford it. If you cant afford the paint, stay out, its your problem. I say 6 pods because back players spit out paint like crazy, and 500 rounds isnt enough. Off the break some back players shoot a hopper, and thats within 20 seconds of hte game. I do like the idea because it makes the game harder, but i still prefer more then 500 balls a game, for the sake of my back player