(un)offical x-valve info

[TheJester]

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they're finally in , again sorry for putting this in here twice, but i thought it would be nice to have it up front where every 1 can see it

THEY'RE HEEEEERRRRRE

http://store.airgun.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=17&Product_ID=19&CATID=5

i called AGD today, and talked to thier purchasing department, and well, i got some good news ....and some bad news.
the reason they aren't out yet, is because they're having some problems with their supplier, and that's why they aren't in yet, but they said about another 1-2 weeks they should be in the airgun store

now for the good news, they retail for $325 , with trade in for classic valves, they'll be $225, so they're only 25 buck more than the orginal + you get a lvl 10 installed too how cool is that?

however, for those of you w/ retro valves, and with retro valves w/ lvl 10 bolts already installed, i have heard (an original post a while ago) they will accept trade ins for them, but they didn't know about how much they would be in that case, you guys are gonna have to but your own deals

the woman i talked to didn't know how many would be in the 1st batch, but no doubt about it, they will go fast, seeing that every 1 and their mothers wants 1

i think that's it, but i may have forgotten something, if there's anything i forgot, let me know, and i'll get back to you

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this is in this later on in this thread, but i thought i would put it up here where every one can see it

to at least releive some what of a load off of the AGD lines, have the ?'s be asked here, not there

flip threw this thread and you'll see that i've been rather on top of things, granted i'm fairly new to the mag world, but i've done some rather extensive info hunting on this valve (cause i want 1 too, and well that's what i do w/ things i want, i look them up) i'll answer what i can, and if i can't, i'm sure some 1 on this forum can

[JEDI]

So let me understand this. $325 for the valve with no trade in. $225 with a classic valve trade in. They are accepting trade ins with retro valves (with & with out L10), but you're not sure of the price yet? Is that it? Ok well lets hope its not some astronomical price. It doesn't seem right that you would trade identical parts (besides alum.) and have to pay more on top of it. I would think most people would agree.

Sure theres the whole "gotta make money" thing, but not at the expensive of Highway robbery.

Why does it seem like AGD is always having trouble with they're supplier? Getting their new stuff is like pulling teeth.

[minimag187]

Whats the retro aluminum cost

[TheJester]

ok, maybe i wasn't clear

x-valve alone....estimated retail price- $325
x-valve w/ "go retro" (trade in for A.I.R. "classic" valve)-$225
they will be accepting trade ins for retro's and retros w/ lvl 10's, but what they will be, to quote them "we will, but i have no idea what we're gonna do about those" or at least something along those lines


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Originally posted by minimag187
Whats the retro aluminum cost

the aluminum retro IS the x-valve

[JEDI]

The aluminum retro is the X-valve we're talking about. I believe TheJester said $325.

[minimag187]

Let me ask this, are all x-valves "retro" or reactive trigger technology.

[TheJester]

x-valve....an aluminum retro valve w/ lvl 10 bolt installed, that's it, a lighter version of the retro (yes that means reactive trigger) with the best bolt out there factory installed, lvl 10, so you won't chop at those now capable higher ROF's

[tranman]

AGD can't afford to go lower

I dont think AGD can go much lower, i mean when you trade in your valve, what are they going to do with it? They can't resell them, or magically turn the stainless steel into a new aluminum valve. What they do is maybe take the little parts they can and maybe swap those with other valves at say tournaments, but not in the AGD factory. They can't do much with the old valves besides throw them out. So how can you complain that they are charging too much for trade-in when the parts you are swapping for ARE NOT the same, and basically they give you a whole new valve, and throw out your old one because they can't use it. Well, thats just my opinion, didn't mean to offend anyone.

[minimag187]

Ive already owned a Lvl 10 Minimag, installed it and worked fine. Just was asking if they still have the classic valves but in aluminum/ if all x valves were reactive.

[AGD]

FYI, we would have had the X-valves out last week but they all came in with dusty looking black ano and had to go back. Its unpredictable things like that which cause me not to even give out estimates on delivery dates.

Of course we could of waxed them and made them LOOK ok but since I can't live with myself for doing that you all have to wait longer.

AGD

PS this is not a small time ano guy its the same people that did all the SFL's

[TRIAD]

So is there ANY idea what a Level 10 ReTro trade-in for X-Valve will cost. If it's not TOO much, I may ask for it for XMas. Get it, XValve, XMas, hahahahaha.

[Boble86]

ok thanks for keeping us informed

[TheJester]

well there you have it, they aren't in yet, because they weren't pretty enough , and as far was i know, they don't have any alm. classic a.i.r valves, just the retro, just the reactive trigger, so to answer your question minimag187, all x-vlaves are retro, and all of them are reactive trigers (that any clearer now?) but i guess i'll try to keep this active untill they come out, so if you have any other ?'s or comments on the valves, post them here

[BajaBoy]

Originally posted by TRIAD
So is there ANY idea what a Level 10 ReTro trade-in for X-Valve will cost. If it's not TOO much, I may ask for it for XMas. Get it, XValve, XMas, hahahahaha.

heh i was like to my dad... Xmag for xMas.. could have should have but i wanted to wake up to something under the tree

[EsPo]

AGD throws out the classics they get on the trade ins.