(un)offical x-valve info

[FordPrefect]

It sounds like everything is peachy. Tom, its nice that you would send stuff back because they are looking a little wrong. Just thought I should say that.

[AcemanPB]

What if we already have level 10 instaled and broken in our classic valve? Can we trade in the classic valve and get a X-valve with no bolt or level 10 for a small discount?

[TheJester]

hey fordperfect, i look a little wrong, are you saying that my parents should send me back? :P

[Dragoon]

Originally posted by JEDI
It doesn't seem right that you would trade identical parts (besides alum.) and have to pay more on top of it. I would think most people would agree.

Sure theres the whole "gotta make money" thing, but not at the expensive of Highway robbery.

I've got to disagree with you. The fact that there is any sort of 'go retro',or in this case 'go x-valve', is surprising. If it was my company I would not offer any sort of trade in unless there was a good reason for getting the old valves off the market. There is nothing wrong with our current retro valves. We just want the newer, lighter versions that have just come out. Well if we want them we should pay for them.

I think AGD should just offer the x-valve on their best markers, then have them available as an upgrade component. We can always sell off our retros in order to upgrade. Just like we do for our other parts/markers.

Douglas.

[darklord]

I would like to know the same thing as AcemanPB...what about us Classic Valve people with a level 10 already installed? BTW I was really surprised at those prices, much cheaper than I expected. Glad the trade-ins are still goin on! /me is one happy AOer.

[ben_JD]

Originally posted by Dragoon
The fact that there is any sort of 'go retro',or in this case 'go x-valve', is surprising. If it was my company I would not offer any sort of trade in unless there was a good reason for getting the old valves off the market.

I agree fully. It is amazing to me that there is any discount attributable to the X-Valve.

[pbguy888]

Whats the size of the first batch gonna be? Like how many? Just wonderin if Ill be able to get one... And will we know pretty much as soon as they are in store? thanks alot

[pimped mag 01]

wow this is alot of hype for an aluminum retro w/ lvl.10, the classic valve will shoot i belive 16 with out drop off, the retro will i belive shoot 26 without drop off why do u need to fire 26?? i dunno what ever floats your nuclear submarine heh i don't mean to offend anyone it jsu seems poiuntless because all the x-valve is is an aluminum retro my god!! an extra 6 oz?!?! i'd prefer stainless for its durability peace out home slice

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

accually i herd the x valve was 8 oz lighter than a classic valve... and i just found out i can pull 11 shots on my classic in 1.118 seconds

[pimped mag 01]

6,8 same thing just ...different numbers still 11 is fast enough jus aim and i don't think weight is a big deal un less u have little sissy arms like me, and i even have no problems with weight

if a quiz is quizical, then whats a test?

[dcmander]

Originally posted by pimped mag 01
wow this is alot of hype for an aluminum retro w/ lvl.10, the classic valve will shoot i belive 16 with out drop off, the retro will i belive shoot 26 without drop off why do u need to fire 26?? i dunno what ever floats your nuclear submarine heh i don't mean to offend anyone it jsu seems poiuntless because all the x-valve is is an aluminum retro my god!! an extra 6 oz?!?! i'd prefer stainless for its durability peace out home slice

It's more than 6 oz isn't it?

Anyway, I would also like to know the price of a tradein for level 10 and ReTro valve.

I'm also wondering how many will be in the first batch.

Now my other question is what will installation be like. These LVL10s and valves are the same aren't they? As in, the bolt just slides onto the valve? Why are they coming together as a package? And why does AGD ask we send in our LVL10 and bolt instead of just our bolt? Whats the installation gonna be like?

Also, is it possible to get them in any color besides black?

Can you annodize them by someone else? I'm getting my gun annoed pewter soon, and I'm wondering if i should anno the valve also to have it match or just keep it black. I actually can't decide which will look better... is it a good or bad idea to annodize the x valve? Will the words be annodized over? Are they engraved or annodized on?

Sorry for all the questions. This is exciting!

[ah137]

Originally posted by dcmander


Also, is it possible to get them in any color besides black?

Can you annodize them by someone else? I'm getting my gun annoed pewter soon, and I'm wondering if i should anno the valve also to have it match or just keep it black. I actually can't decide which will look better... is it a good or bad idea to annodize the x valve? Will the words be annodized over? Are they engraved or annodized on?

Sorry for all the questions. This is exciting!

I would like to know about this also, The serial number will be gone after anodizing. So can we send the valve back in to get it re-laser engraved? I know AGD is very finicky about the serial number.

Hills

[TheJester]

Originally posted by ah137



I would like to know about this also, The serial number will be gone after anodizing. So can we send the valve back in to get it re-laser engraved? I know AGD is very finicky about the serial number.

Hills

why would it come off? aren't the numbers lazer ingraved? i wanna say they are, and that won't come off to easy. i mean, that means there's actually some metal takin out to put the numbers there

w/ colors, on an original post, i seem to remember tom saying the 1st batch would be black (nothing was said about future batches, who knows, they could end up coming in every color of the rainbow

Originally posted by pimped mag 01
wow the classic valve will shoot i belive 16 with out drop off, the retro will i belive shoot 26 without drop off why do u need to fire 26?? i

it's not always just for the extra consistancy, i want 1 for the RT properties

Originally posted by dcmander

Now my other question is what will installation be like. These LVL10s and valves are the same aren't they? As in, the bolt just slides onto the valve? Why are they coming together as a package? And why does AGD ask we send in our LVL10 and bolt instead of just our bolt? Whats the installation gonna be like?

why not include them together, and cheaper at that, w/ trade in of a classic, for a retro, and buying a lvl 10, you would pay 280, now you're paying 225, also, they install and tune the lvl 10 for you, you dont have to monkey w/ all the shims and spacers and springs, they do it for you, just slide it in your gun, and you're good to go

[dcmander]

Originally posted by TheJester
why not include them together, and cheaper at that, w/ trade in of a classic, for a retro, and buying a lvl 10, you would pay 280, now you're paying 225, also, they install and tune the lvl 10 for you, you dont have to monkey w/ all the shims and spacers and springs, they do it for you, just slide it in your gun, and you're good to go

I know i was mainly asking to see how the installation will be. is it the same exact design? You will still be able to slide the bolt off the valve, correct?

You guys think a black Xvalve to match the dye stickies of the intelliframe, hopper, and a tank cover will look better htan a pewter annoed to match xvalve on my micromag vert feed?

[TheJester]

dcmander- i don't have a lvl 10 yet i would have 1 by now, but then i heard of this and decided to wait, because i don't play much this time of year (kinda cold here in NY), but if you ask me, it has to slide on and off, other wise how would it work? it has to slide to cycle, and based on the diagrams i've seen it does, so yea, i'm gonna say it's just like the stock bolt, on/off wise, lvl 10 is just better