The new DYE air systems

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 10:55 AM

no, im saying, they probabally have a crappy high out put. If angels use so much high output, why does their angel air struggle past 600? also whi is their direct imput around 225 if you dont use the mini reg? timmies are low out put tank users, as well as bushies, impy's etc. Mags and some blowback low end semi's are all that seem to use a high output any more.

Sure, you can use a high out put tank on these markers, but they are regulated down by their reg. You cannot use it on a mag (low our put) because low out put tanks usually dont go over 400 psi, and the mag reg needs 200 psi over to really make the regulator work.

The dye tank probabally does not put out at high enough pressures to work an e-mag, or an rt, to any ones specifics.

**rdb123** · 12-15-2002, 11:01 AM

Ok, so you're saying an Angel AIR won't work well on my SFL Emag? I've been thinking about buying one.

-Ron

**Blennidae** · 12-15-2002, 11:08 AM

Looking at the pic of the adjustable tank, how do you turn it on? I really like the on/off of the flatlines.

I do like the built in dovetail, nice idea. Weird tank sizes though.

**sniper1rfa** · 12-15-2002, 11:18 AM

titanium is a funny metal. for the most part, aluminium is better/lighter. almost always, in fact. titanium is over twice as heavy as Al. its also runs between 28-50+ per pound.

only in super high strength parts (parts that NEED to be made of steel or similar) that have tight space requirements is titanium worth it (jet engine parts...). most other parts can be made lighter and cheaper, albiet a little larger, out of aluminium.

remember the titanium 'mag valves? well, the ally ones are out, not the Ti ones, because they are actually lighter. the titanium valves werent.

titanium currently has no place in paintball...

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 11:21 AM

well, you see, the angel air can olny put out about 600 psi, your sfl will want about 750 -1000 psi depending on your likes and disslikes, save your angel air money, and get a max flo, dyna flo, or a flatline. they will put out what your lookin to get

**Hexis** · 12-15-2002, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by magman007
bah, you all realize they made it out of titanium just to jack up the price right? Why is everyone saying, oh its going to rock, im going to pay 550 for one etc. WE DONT KNOW HOW THEY PERFORM PEOPLE!!!!!!!

Funny how the above completly is ignored when this was written in the same post:

Originally posted by magman007

Tere probabally a crappy high out put tank anyways, since no one in their mother runs high pressure any more, well excppt for us maggers. We will probabally get dropped out again. IT prolly goes up to 600 like the angel air and stops.

All we have is a couple images of the tank. We can all pretty much agree that is looks very nice. We don't have a real clue about price. We don't have any clue about performance. Let's wait to condemn this product until we know more about it.

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 12:25 PM

well hexis, while you say my post was contradictory, it most certainly was not. Everyone is glorifying the tank, and its true we do not know how it performs. We also do not know its out put pressure any ways. But like most dye products, it is high performance, but not the highest.

Also, i was using that as another statement. Everyone is saying, this tank will rock etc etc, well we need some one to contradict dont we? Im offereing myt opinion on what will happen, and myopinioin on how it will perform, because i do not think it will be the best tank out there. Im saying the same as you. Be quiet until we know more.

Also, you can see dye is at it again. Im sure they will probabally be the olny ones to make tank covers for those sized tanks. so if you purchase one, you will need a dye tank cover as well. Smart marketing if you ask me.

who else will make covers to fit them? i doubt any one will

**xmagaman** · 12-15-2002, 12:30 PM

The owner of my local shop who sponcors us went to world cup and got an awesome new Nitro Duck. This tank has the tuff skin and it is a screw in adjustable. You like have to turn a ring at the neck of the tank to adjust it, so it doesnt look that bad. The wholesale is around $260-thats good price/good tank.

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 12:31 PM

ok, i may retract my previous statements, if i can get some clarrification. here it is from dye's site

The new 4500 psi adjustable Throttle Titanium air delivery system is the ultimate in air management technology. Made from a solid bar of 6AL-4V titanium, the Throttle 45 TI will
perform like no other air system on the market. Fully adjustable range of operation and balanced uniform air movement provide consistent shots at low operating pressures. The Throttle remains consistent even as high as 30 cfm

now it says, consistent at low pressures, then also even as high as 30 cfm. can some one tell me what 30 cfm is? if that is a hih pressure, as im assuming it is, i may have to shove my foot in my mouth.

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**Hexis** · 12-15-2002, 01:03 PM

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 01:35 PM

Hexis, thank you for the clarification, i must admit, you are right, i am judging it as overpriced crap, i do this with most dye things.

Atleast, their clothing line is right on the bal with pricing, i will admit, that 15 dollars for a teeshirt is what i would normally pay.

THeir tank covers do rock, but the best, im not sure. i have seen some great ones out there. And i will admit i own a dye tank cover, but i have seen some better ones, or atleat ones that catch my eye more.

i tihnk, we al just need to be quiet, my self included.

Also, does any one know if those bottles are tuff skinned? they appear to be that way.

Also, sorry for being contradictiry, i was trying to offer my opinion, yet also get the point across we dont know a dam thing about the system. thank you for helping me in getting that point across.

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**rdb123** · 12-15-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by sniper1rfa
titanium is a funny metal. for the most part, aluminium is better/lighter. almost always, in fact. titanium is over twice as heavy as Al. its also runs between 28-50+ per pound.
...

Lol, well that's pretty funny because their Ti-Boomsticks (made out of Titanium) are advertised to give the strength of stainless steel, but the light weight of aluminum.

-Ron

**rdb123** · 12-15-2002, 03:07 PM

I think this answers our question; a direct quote about the screw in from Dye's website:

"The Throttle Preset is a technologically advanced yet simple hassle-free regulator and is quickly becoming the favorite style among professionals today. The Throttle Preset is factory set to an efficient 850 psi. This unique design provides maximum unrestriced air flow at a constant output pressure which is more than suitable for any marker available today. As with most preset systems, this regulated air system should be used in conjuction with a good in-line reg, such as our Hyper Reg, so all you have to do is just screw in and play."

Looks like they should work fine on an SFL or any mag for that matter.

-Ron

**magman007** · 12-15-2002, 03:18 PM

yes, but we were arguing about the adjustable. presets are usually either high or low output, but mostly high output. 850 is standard for a pre set tank, that will work fine on your sfl, but an adj is nicer, for more tweaking...

the air will not put out enough to run your sfl efficiently

**rdb123** · 12-15-2002, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by magman007

the air will not put out enough to run your sfl efficiently

I'm under the impression that you own an SFL yourself. What do you use on it?

Thanks

-Ron

The new DYE air systems

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