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  • Raptor3359
    Registered User
    • May 2002
    • 160

    #16
    u could always get longer screws.
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    • yeahthatsme
      aka yeahthatswang
      • Sep 2002
      • 2592

      #17
      get a ule rail, milled down(milled to the same size as the regular body) and an xvalve(might have to wait for a week or 2 on the x valve though) and you will have a significantly lighter gun.
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      • Schnitzel
        'Saurus'
        • May 2002
        • 754

        #18
        i have intended to get the X-valve since it was announced.

        it's nice to hear your suggestions about other things i can do to save weight, but i'd like hear what you all think about the plate.

        thanks.

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        • rbreding
          Registered User
          • Jul 2001
          • 137

          #19
          One of the things that I did to lessen the weight of mine was get rid of those 9V batteries and run the revvy and warp off the internal EMAG battery. If you have the 12V warp mod then you are running with 4 9V batteries!!!.


          LX Emag
          Warp
          Revvy
          DZ2
          Nitro Duck 68/4500 adjustable
          Freak 12"

          9lb 6oz

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          • TheJester
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 753

            #20
            ok ok ok guys, not need to pick on me, notice i did give a range there, but it's not light, and i was saying fully loaded, no i haven't weighed it, i'll get around to it at some point, but i can hold a 15 lb weight out at arms length w/ not much difficulty, and i have a littler harder time w/ my gun, maybe that's cause my gun is just a little more bulky though, but she's no feather weight, and my bro always *****es how heavy it is, but i like the weight of mine
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            • cris8762
              Village Idiot
              • Jun 2002
              • 1763

              #21
              ok guys....time to hit the gym.......
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              • FESTUS33
                AO's Mad Gunsmith
                • Oct 2002
                • 851

                #22
                Originally posted by nerobro
                I can't imagine the slug being lighter than a normal e-mag body.. seeing that it's 1/4 inch thinck. and aluminum is only on the order of 1/2 the weight of steel. so that reccomendation isn't going to help much....

                As for the xvalve... for the moment, purchasing an xvalve without an extreme is imposiable.... again something that really can't be done.

                And what if the gun in question isn't a necessarily an e-mag? did you know a large percentage of the warps spend their lives on angels? (and many other guns.. check out paintchecks matrix if you need another example) The guys idea is solid.. but if I were to cut up the bracket.. I'd make a new one with welded endplates on it or something.. a structurally better design. (though from a production standpoint financially imposiable) I dunno.. for stuff to be done at home... Well break out the dremmel, the cutting disks, and the sewing machine and hack up your hopper and warp.
                My machined slug weigh's in at 4.5oz, My vert E-Mag body
                weigh's in at 8.0oz, and my Warp right body come's in at
                8.5oz. That's 3.5 to 4.0 ounces difference, believe me
                you can feel it.
                Rick
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                • FutureMagOwner
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 3354

                  #23
                  yeah when the package came in with the slug(chrismas present so i cant measure it) it was so light i thought it was empty yet my current mag body is quite heavy

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                  • nerobro
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 923

                    #24
                    Originally posted by FESTUS33


                    My machined slug weigh's in at 4.5oz, My vert E-Mag body
                    weigh's in at 8.0oz, and my Warp right body come's in at
                    8.5oz. That's 3.5 to 4.0 ounces difference, believe me
                    you can feel it.
                    Rick
                    *ahem* MACHINED. what was the weight before?
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                    • bofh
                      Waldorf, the Heckler
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 1248

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nerobro


                      *ahem* MACHINED. what was the weight before?
                      Doesn't matter what is was before. Or did you miss the entire point of the sluggo?

                      The sluggo *has* to have some machine work done to it to be usable. You have to tap the detent, and you have to mill the sluggo body down so the detent can fit.

                      An unmachined Sluggo is an not a viable body.

                      Unless you want to argue, that you don't need a detent. And if you like to take that route, send me a postcard from your world, Because I'd like to see what color the sky is.
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                      • magmonkey
                        Mass Destruction
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 775

                        #26
                        if you want to to see what will happen I will build a slotted warp bracket and weigh it against my factory one to see what can be saved on weight without taking enough metal off so that it folds in half

                        gliney the mag monkey

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                        • nerobro
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 923

                          #27
                          BOFH that hurts. if you considder drilling and tapping a hold machine work.. I dunno what to say. that's hand tool work ;-)

                          You have a small point. But keep in mind judghing by a modified sluggo you're not going to get a good idea of what they weigh. there is no "standard" milling or setup for the slug. while his may weigh 4.5oz, the next guy could have only removed enough to tap the detent. and the next guy could have the thing as thin as the aluminum prototype bodies. You just don't know. so it's not a good yardstick. Using other than the stock weight is like talking about the rof I can shoot a gun. it means nothing about what the next guy can do

                          As from what world? Hopefully not yours seeing the heat i got from that letter. *douses the flamer with water*
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                          Truth is a complex thing. One must govern by simplicity. -M. Mercier, special counsel to his Majesty for domestic matters. The Brotherhood of the Wolf

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                          • bofh
                            Waldorf, the Heckler
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 1248

                            #28
                            Originally posted by nerobro
                            I can't imagine the slug being lighter than a normal e-mag body.. seeing that it's 1/4 inch thinck. and aluminum is only on the order of 1/2 the weight of steel. so that reccomendation isn't going to help much....
                            My basic point is, No sluggo should get used out straight of the box, because they are *designed* to be worked on first. The basic assumpution of yours that it will remain 1/4 thick is fundementaly flawed.

                            FESTUS33's sluggo is a perfect example of this. Minimal, easy milling resulting in a 3.5 to 4.0 oz weight saving. Will other people have more wieght? Sure, will some have less? Sure. You've seen the pictures of FESTUS33's sluggo. And now you know how much it wieghs. Since his is the first functional Sluggo in the wild, it is the baseline.

                            Originally posted by nerobro
                            BOFH that hurts. if you considder drilling and tapping a hold machine work.. I dunno what to say. that's hand tool work ;-)
                            You must have also missed where I said you have to mill the sluggo body down for the detent to fit.

                            Sure, I will do mine with a hand tool, but most people will want it to look good, so they might use a machine to thin the sluggo body so the detent can actually touch the paintball and "detent."

                            As for the "color of your sky," that's premptive, for the "I don't need no stinking Detents" defense. Read the whole last paragraph, slowly this time.
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                            • Schnitzel
                              'Saurus'
                              • May 2002
                              • 754

                              #29
                              man, this always happens.

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                              • shadow462
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 315

                                #30
                                actual weights

                                Since we're talking ounces, and even tenths of ounces, here, it would be nice to get more actual numbers (thanks to festus for starting the trend). EXACTLY how much do each of the items we're talking about weigh? Anyone who has a digital scale (I won't ask why) please contribute what you can. We're specifically talking about warp options, so weights of the warp plate and body would be nice. I personally would like the numbers on more mag components. It would be nice to know exactly where you can save weight, without busting out the dremel. For example, someone said their ULEmag weighs 2 pounds, 12 ounces. I believe the Xmag is 2.6, roughly 2 pounds, 9 ounces (correct me if I'm wrong here). By that math, switching out the emag valve for the Xvalve (often touted as 3 ounces lighter than a retro) in the ULEmag would get you to the same weight as an Xmag, no? Please contribute weights on EVERY mag component you can, emag, rt, auto, or mini. Aftermarket parts would be of great help as well (vertical adapters, drops, sight rails, even barrels). I'm one of the people who is interested in minimizing weight in my setup, and this could be a great resource for everyone who is similarly inclined. Thanks in advance for everyone who helps out!


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