2003 shocker looks like a mag??

[agdemagman69]

cough... told you so...cough

[magman007]

i still believe that the nerve is open bolt, as the open bolted marker should be faster then the close bolted marker.....

[Ov3rmind]

Patented Electronic control delivers fire rate of 20+++BPS

ROFL, patented electronic control.

[Ov3rmind]

New/old Shocker size comparison:

[Ov3rmind]

Another Nerve pic (I'm really liking this gun):

[Little Matt]

I really don't think that the size comparison picture is up to scale, becuase look at the tank size diffrences. that looks alittle funny.

Later,

[DiRTyBuNNy]

either that or they're using some obscenely huge 114ci tank on the old shocker...it's entirely possible..the efficiency was that bad..

[Little Matt]

That would be a very big tank, surely that couldn't have been that horrible on gas. lol

[ChucktheMAGician]

Originally posted by Little Matt
surely that couldn't have been that horrible on gas. lol

You haven't used a Shocker before have you?!! I haven't shot a ton of guns but I'd have to say that the Shocker is the biggest gas hog I've ever seen. I have 2 for sale BTW if anyone's interested!

[Little Matt]

actually I have shot one, I've never owned one. But I have played with them before. But usually handing them right
back to the owner becuase I couldn't get me and the gun behind the bunker at the same time.

lol
later,

[mykroft]

The Nerve is closed bolt, in fact that's about the only official info SP has released on the Nerve, I suspect it's a dual solenoid version of the Shocker (Which is now single solenoid). The pics of it come from a new SP catalogue that got shipped early. And the Tank on the new Shocker appears to be a tubby 68ci, same diameter as the 88 on that old shocker on the comparison shot, but much shorter. Normal 68's are thinner and shorter than an 88, the tubby's are just shorter (And shorter than a normal 68).

And Smart Parts does have patents on Electronic Guns. They're just unenforcabel because of some US Navy patents from the early 70's show prior art (If SP ever went to court over them, they'd lose to anybody competent).

[SyntaxError]

Originally posted by ChucktheMAGician

Wouldn't the shocker be more if it was closed bolt and the nerve wasn't?

What does closed bolt have to do with it? My info is from a fairly reliable source, and what I was told is roughly $750 for the Shocker, and $1200 for the basic Nerve

[mykroft]

Closed bolt has nothing to do with pricing, since both the Nerve and the Shocker are closed bolt. Now I suspect that it has more to do with the fact the Nerve is faster (20+bps to the new Shocker's 18), has an LPR (Which no shocker has ever had) and is possibly a dual solenoid design (The new Shocker is reportedly a single solenoid design). It's also a Vision board stock in the Nerve (I hear that the Shocker may have Vision, possibly as an upgrade though)

That would easily justify the price difference.

I'd still probably get ths shocker though. I don't need more speed, have no real use for ACE's (Even my Angel almost never chops), and prefer the smaller profile.


Update: Just confirmed that the New Shocker is indeed Single Solenoid & Comes with a Vision Board. $1000cdn.

[einhander619]

Wow, I can't beliieve I'm saying this, but I actually want a shocker!

[Xerces]

i dont like the way the blade trigger looks. bleh.

i think the reason it looks like a mag would be the angled front where barrel goes in, the gadget grip-esque foregrip(SP, i wonder why), and the milling sorta makes it look like it has a body rail and a tube like design.