2003 shocker looks like a mag??

[hardr0ck68]

ok well now dosent AGD have the patient on the magnetic trigger?? i hope they go to court over that because its one of the few true innovations in paintball latly and i dont have much interest in seeing SP (a total crap company IMO ) using it.

hey there shocker looks like a mag, there max-flow looks like a flatline and there new toy has a magnetic trigger...sounds like there tryin to copy someone doin all the right things

[ChucktheMAGician]

I was always under the impression that 2 solenoids were needed for an elec. gun to be closed bolt? Feel free to elaborate w/ more info!

[Ov3rmind]

ok well now dosent AGD have the patient on the magnetic trigger?? i hope they go to court over that because its one of the few true innovations in paintball latly and i dont have much interest in seeing SP (a total crap company IMO ) using it.

and there new toy has a magnetic trigger...

Obviously they don't have a patent for it, considering that the Impulse, Matrix, Viking, Excalibur, and AutoCocker have magnetic frames available.

hey there shocker looks like a mag,

So? So do lots of other guns. Pretty much all guns look like some other gun.

there max-flow looks like a flatline

It just looks like a smaller Max-Flo to me, am I the only one who doesn't really think it looks like a Flatline ?

...sounds like there tryin to copy someone doin all the right things

I fail to see the benefit of copying a company who is doing half as well as you (as much as I love AGD, you have to admit SP is doing MUCH better as far as paintball products go).

[PBXFactor739]

I dont know if this question has been asked before, but i would like to know what AGD thinks of the new shocker.

[mykroft]

Couple of things:

First off, AGD is the only company doing a Magnetic activated trigger, all the other Magnetic frames use a magnet for a return spring, but only the E-Mag uses a Hall effect sensor as a microswitch replacement. Everybody else (Except WDP) uses a Microswitch, WDP is now changing to an opto-electronic switch, which is far more reliable than a standard microswitch. The only part of the E-Mag trigger that may be patented is the use of the hall effect sensor.

As to looks, yeah, the new Shocker looks like a Mag, I suspect thats due to it sharing a body extrusion with the Nerve. Most guns which resemble each other, also work similarily. Thus the large number of nearly identical stacked tube blowbacks and stacked tube open bolt electro-pneumatics, which are all nearly identical designs(In fact the two designs most noted for wide use are rather related to each other). The Shocker is teh exception to the rule, but it is a one-tube design, like the Mag, and thus does look similar (All one-tubes do share some similarities)

The New Max-Flo does mildly resemble the Flatline, but that's simply becase it went to a Reg mount similar to the Armageddon (Which the Flatline is a clone of).

As to Whether or not SP or AGD is more successful, I'd say they're equally successful, at what they're trying to do, which are two different things. If Smart Parts is the Nissan of the paintball world(Lots of nice, reliable, moderate-high performance stuff), then AGD is the Subaru (Quirky, high-performance and unique). The Extreme E-Mag has been a very popular design looks wise (I've heard more than a few people say they'd buy one if it wasn't a Mag) and I'm not surprised that somebody has made a lookalike, and SP has never been very innovative in the looks department.

And Tom's said he wonders where they put all the parts?(What they actually did was eliminate 1 solenoid and thus the need for the Shoebox)

[Warewolf50]

Has anyone heard anything else about when the gun is going to be released.

[Benfica4ever]

I never really thought of that, but now that someone brings it up it does look like it.

[cris8762]

!HOLY THREAD RESSURECTION BATMAN!!!

[jayel579]

Originally posted by cris8762
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haha

ive heard only a hand full of people have accually shot that gun. 2 of them are from hyper sports works in PA. a buddy of mine plays for a team sponsered by SS and was waiting to get one. i thought this was kinda funny, i let him borrow my Emag for a sat, now hes reconsidering an Emag over the new shocker.

[ChucktheMAGician]

Here's an interesting link. Hopefully it hasn't already been posted, http://www.badlandspaintball.com/aboutus/spfactory.html