No Pipe for the Automag :(

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  • Bront
    Boogie Knight
    • Nov 2002
    • 137

    #1

    No Pipe for the Automag :(

    I e-mailed Evil about pipes for the Automag, and this is what they sent back to me.

    At the present time there are no plans to make a Pipe for the automag. In the future if the demand is larger enough for the Pipe in automag thread we will make a batch.
    Anyone who is actualy interested in getting a pipe for their mag should e-mail Evil ([email protected] I believe, their site's under construction or just E-mail PMI) and tell them "I want an Automag Pipe"
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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #2
    Aren't the new X-Mags 'cocker threaded?You must have an older mag then right?(me smart)
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    • Sparq
      Interloper
      • Mar 2002
      • 730

      #3
      There was talk of this somewhere else...I don't remember where. Anyway, someone suggested buying a cocker Pipe kit and a barrel adapter...apparently docsmachine.com makes them.
      "I would like nothing more than to walk around
      wearing a shirt with a giant arrow pointing
      downwards, but I have this strange feeling
      that most people would take it as some kind
      of sexual suggestion rather than an attempt
      to infer one's final destination."

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      • Bront
        Boogie Knight
        • Nov 2002
        • 137

        #4
        Yes, but automag barrels could soon cease to be made if companies start to decide to do the same thing that Evil is doing.

        There are quite a few non-cocker threaded Automags out there still, so there is plenty of demand.
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        • ß.C.
          Registered User
          • Jan 2002
          • 1921

          #5
          I'd rather have twist lock than cocker threads but ever since tom made LVL X the twist lock wasn't too important anymore. But still, automags are deprived of all the cool barrels. I don't want a pipe but I do want a lot of those barrels out there but none of them are for mags!

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          • EsPo
            Dosehead
            • Jul 2002
            • 4140

            #6
            twist lock = much better than threads. its so much quicker too.
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            • Potatoboy
              Hamburgers should be high

              • Sep 2001
              • 2533

              #7
              Yeesh, think actively. The next step is finding out how many PMI runs in a batch.
              Potatoboy!

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              • kevmaster
                Owners Group Div: Director
                • Oct 2001
                • 5475

                #8
                i emailed them and i dont even own a twist lock mag hehe

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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #9
                  The twist lock needs to go away.Notice twist lock mag barrels are always $10+ higher than every other thread.All guns should adopt cocker threads and we would never have a barrel problem again.
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                  • Jonesie
                    All Around Good Guy
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1123

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WARPED1
                    The twist lock needs to go away.Notice twist lock mag barrels are always $10+ higher than every other thread.All guns should adopt cocker threads and we would never have a barrel problem again.
                    Except for the 30,000+ Twist-Lock Automags still in existance... Sorry, but this will never happen. There will always be a market for the twist lock, or the Angel thread, or the Spyder thread, ... you get my point.

                    It's about supporting what's out there. Companies will lose too much money by excluding a portion of their potenetial customers. I know this is the 2nd barrel set to not be twist-lock compatible, but I highly doubt this is a trend...

                    EDIT: Try telling WDP or Kingman to adopt to a standard. Kingman can't (or won't) even do standard bottom-line holes...

                    Later ~ Jonesie
                    David M. Jones
                    AO Member #1111 - Formerly davej946
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                    • kevmaster
                      Owners Group Div: Director
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 5475

                      #11
                      jonsie--

                      If it were profitable to make mag backs, they would. since they dont, apparently its not.

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                      • Jonesie
                        All Around Good Guy
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 1123

                        #12
                        Kev,
                        I would have to agree, what with the addtional material and milling.

                        I do find it difficult to believe that these companies would leave the Mag shooting population out in the cold. There are sooooo many Mags out there...

                        Imagin this scenario: Let's say that WGP has decided to make all of their newer guns use the Angel barrel thread. Then companies stop making barrels to fit the 'cocker threads. With ALL of those cockers out there with the original threading, seems like a lot of players are eliminated from your customer base...

                        But then again, I'm no marketing major...
                        David M. Jones
                        AO Member #1111 - Formerly davej946
                        Member of Team AO, MGO 2003

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                        • kevmaster
                          Owners Group Div: Director
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 5475

                          #13
                          jonsie, if it costs them $10,000 to make a batch of 100 barrels. if they could sell those 100 quickly to Angel owners and just as quickly to 'Mag owners, they would make one of mags and one of angels. but if they couldnt sell those barrels as quick to mag owners and it would take them a year to get their investment back with mags whereas it would take a month with Angels--esp for a new product-- they are going to make those angels. could they make some money on mag ownres? prolly. is it worth their time to make that money when they could be making better money on Angel owners? not really


                          again, like you, i am no marketing major or anything

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                          • WARPED1
                            I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 7458

                            #14
                            As many mags that ARE out there,there is NO demand for their accescories,even TK realized he had to get away and went 'cocker threads on his new mags.
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                            • TippmannMan
                              Inactive
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 378

                              #15
                              erm...

                              ive had nothing but bad luck with my twist lock assembly. when i got my first mag the twist lock or maybe the barrel was unaligned and i had severe barrel vibration and the level 10 would frequently stop on the barrel when it was out of place. i understand the point of being able to take the barrel out quickly but does it really take that much longer to remove any other type of threaded barrel? when a ball breaks and i need to clean out the barrel i do the following: take cover. notify my team mates. twist/unscrew the barrel. run a pull thru squeegee through it (no battleswab for me). twist/screw the barrel back on. i mean at least in my case (i dont play in tournaments tho i play on speedball type fields) the threading doesnt matter. its not like im going to take out my barrel while exposed to the other team so i dont really care about speed. also i havent had my mag long enough but i am pretty sure twisting that barrel in and out after a while affects how firmly it holds in place.

                              edit: oh and merry christmas

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