Upgrades

[cphilip]

Well Tom dropped a hint in another thread yesterday that they were working on a Sluggo that would be in the ULE category. I would have to assume for sale. So thats exciting is it not? And the fact that he said they were working on it now means we might get a look at it soon!

I never tried it to but you could slap an emag grip onto a regular rail I think. Problem with all that is how the sear is mounted and what type of sear is used. Easier to put it on a RT Pro or and Emag rail realy. Not sure if the RT Pro one is milled so that sear with the plunger can pass through. So lets say Emag rail to be sure. Must be something different though as the two use different lenght on off pins but I am not certain where that difference comes in. Your mini had a sear that sits on a pin in a slot in the rail. These two (emag and RT Pro) have ones that use a screw pin that screws into a threaded part of the rail. Different. So right off hand I would say of you did slap and emag grip on it then it would not do you much good except to give you somewhere to mount the electronics.

So lets say you want to go further then. So you change the rail so you can use one with a plunger rod and Brass Bushing. So then you change the rail to an emag rail and get this emag sear and sear screw pin to do that you only have the body and valve left to use from your mini. And since your body has a round Pennel not an oval one you would have to grind off the sides of the body pennel to get it to go down in the oval hole in the rail(has been done by the way). And then you got yourself and emag with minimag body once you do all that.

So in review you just replaced everything but the body and valve (not sure which one you have). And you had to modify the body inorder to use it and perhaps change the on off pin in that valve too. So you want to do all that?

OK rail and grip about $200-250 or so if you shop around. Sear and pin say $55. Emag Board $200. Selenoid and HES and Battery another couple hundred? ...well we will be over an emag by then but hey! You got to use your valve and body!!!! See? Not simple as you would think and not cheap.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

HMMM

So you're saying there's a chance? (Dumb And Dumber Quote For The Uninformed)

Ok, I agree that shoots that one right out of the water. I think selling the Mag and buying an XMag or hopefully a lower price one without the eye to be released later (hint hint Tom Kaye )is the way to go. I planned on getting a new body as my next upgrade anyways. I like the powerfeed over the classic feed, but an Angel Hi-Rise is something I'm dying for. And a better looking body than the ugly one Mags have used so far is another big step up for me.

On the topic of uninformed, I am not familiar with what you mean by ULE category. Is that, in other words, going to mount on the rail? Or am I way off? What thread is that you are referring to?

[cphilip]

yea I wonder why no one is doing it!

Hey keep the mini and put one of these new bodies on it and use it for a back up!!! its a classic marker!!!


ULE = "Ultra Light Engineering".

He is implying they are taking as much meat off the sluggo body as possible to make it Ultra Light.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

mini

Oh, I love my gun. I played for 10 hours last saturday and didn't have one single technical issue (all indoor speedball, but I took some time off to learn how to ref and have a pro teach me some tactics, I am really into the game these days but can't afford to play all the time). The only three things I'm looking at are
1.) My medium to long range accuracy wasn't that great. I heard Mags aren't the best for this because of using a nubbin and 1/4 turn barrel but my aim might play a role. I hate looking over the powerfeed. Whats your take on nubbin vs. the new ball detent and cocker barrels? I use a Smartparts All American right now.
2.) It's ugly and heavy. It works great which is why I bought it, but I'm dying to get one of these ULE bodies! Just as long as they aren't as "bendy, rattly, and frail" as Micromag bodies are. I think they don't hold a barrel, valve, and frame as well as AGD bodies do. I hope it's up to AGD's standards of quality and durability. With my new Xvalve the tank'll be the heaviest part by far.
3.) The trigger pull is short, which i like, but pretty heavy. High rates of fire are tricky, I can't afford Electric just now and kind of prefer analog, but the pull on a Mag is definitely heavy enough to slow rapid and snap shooting. Any ideas on safe and effective Mods? I use an Xvalve and Intelliframe.
If I can solve these three things I will be AGD for life. I really trust the company but it's expensive stuff. I can't afford to buy six different markers so a reliable, high quality one is what I like and the Minimag has been that from day one. Any ideas would be highly valued.

[cphilip]

well what are you cronoing at? You should be getting as good as anyone else. You didn't say the length of the barrels but eveyone has to lob em at a distance. Nor did you specify the bore and what your paint fit was in it. That is the key is the fit. You may need a range of barrels to compensate or look into one of the kits

Your new X mag vavle is gonna change your trigger feel somewhat. And your rate of fire too. And if you can adjust input your realy gonna find that mod is the best out there for the ROF. You already have the best frame for it. I should think all you got left is the body to work on and this one sounds like the ticket! I should think they will take in to account where and when they mill off to make sure its still strong. And yea your gonna need an Angel rise feed and a cocker barrel or a few.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

THANK YOU

Sorry for the constant questions, but you are helping me out alot right now. Like I said, aim at long range is probably my fault, it's hard to shoot straight down the body with the powerfeed there. having space to the left and the right is why I want an Angel or Autococker hi-rise. I'm stuck using PMI Invader at the field I play at, barrel bore being .68. I never really focused on matching those two but never had issues with it.

I use a Crossfire 68ci, 3000psi preset at 850psi output. It was very affordable, works well, and paying $300-400 for an adjustable regulator setup when the Mag has a regulator is nuts to me. Definitely pro stuff. I plan on going up to 4500 soon though. Any suggestions for good (and affordable) adjustable Nitro setups? I know about the Flatline, but way too much money for an amateur with my income (just out of college).

Finally, can I get the name of that thread you were referring to? I'm definitely interested in taking a look a it. Thanks for everything, you have been a big help to me.

[cphilip]

Well you need to do that Blow Through test on that barrel and paint match and see if its a good fit. At least that will tell you where you are now on that end. And remember it will change with the temperature, humidity and age of the paint sometimes. You have to be able to compensate some days.

The thread was tittled something about "ULE". Tom did not post a picture of what he was talking about. Keep and eye out for it though. He will.

Your gonna love that reactive trigger I think!

[rdb123]

Originally posted by Xerces


its a bug in the poll script

Actually it's not, it's part of the way the forum was programmed. If you just use an apostrophe, that will not make the page text format correctly. Therefore, you must use an escape charater. The backslash is the standard that is also used in C++.

Only way to get around this would be to type the ascii code for that character. You may or may not know this, but if you open up an html source and type in "nbsp;", that will give you a space mark. Hehe



-Ron

[ben_JD]

Re: HMMM

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
I think selling the Mag and buying an XMag or hopefully a lower price one without the eye to be released later (hint hint Tom Kaye )is the way to go.

I do not think that the eye is a major contributor to the cost of the X-Mag (just a major contributor to the DELAY of the X-Mag).

[DeathscytheSK]

I think that Quincy's idea would be so awesome even if its not possible, having a gun that has so many optional upgrades and even making it go from analog to electronic would be amazing