New Trigger: Manual and Electro only. No Hybrid.

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  • TheTramp
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 4019

    #16
    Wht would you want to make E-Mag not have the hybrid mode? Is it simply that you can't have it with this trigger or is it that you're intentionaly taking it away?
    "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
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    • manike
      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

      • Jan 2001
      • 3820

      #17
      Originally posted by TheTramp
      Wht would you want to make E-Mag not have the hybrid mode? Is it simply that you can't have it with this trigger or is it that you're intentionaly taking it away?
      a) because in hybrid mode you can sometimes get two shots from one trigger pull and this is not wanted for some tournament series that I play in.

      b) You could have hybrid with this trigger if you want it.

      b) yes I am very intentionally taking it away (you could still have it if you wanted it)

      Many tournament players just want electro with the mechanical back up. No hybrid.

      Hybrid mode tends to cause me more problems than benefits. Ideally for me I want an electro gun that I can switch to mechanical if anything goes wrong, without having to worry about a judge trying to be an idiot and getting a double tap from my gun to stop me playing.

      manike
      Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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      • TheTramp
        Registered User
        • Jan 2001
        • 4019

        #18
        Originally posted by manike

        because in hybrid mode you can sometimes get two shots from one trigger pull and this is not wanted for some tournament series that I play in.
        Fair enough, very good point.

        Many tournament players just want electro with the mechanical back up. No hybrid.
        Personaly, I love the hybrid but I can see how more profesinal tournament players wouldn't want to deal with ANY possible problems.

        Hybrid mode tends to cause me more problems than benefits. Ideally for me I want an electro gun that I can switch to mechanical if anything goes wrong, without having to worry about a judge trying to be an idiot and getting a double tap from my gun to stop me playing.

        manike
        Like I said, good point :) . I'm lucky in that the tournament series I play in isn't quite as strict. Of course we're not playing for large cash prizes or new cars, ect. Of course we also don't pay the big bucks to get in.
        "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
        -Charlie Papazian

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        • Python14
          Norsk
          • Jun 2001
          • 3343

          #19
          That's pretty cool. It reminds me of the safety scissors they gave us in Kindergarten so we couldn't hurt ourselves or others.
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          • Dayspring
            aka- The Day Wang

            • May 2001
            • 9664

            #20
            Yeah, they give you the scissors that can't cut dirt but gave you the compass that could kill a horse.

            Originally posted by Python14
            That's pretty cool. It reminds me of the safety scissors they gave us in Kindergarten so we couldn't hurt ourselves or others.

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            • alkafluence
              Slave to the Traffic Light
              • Jun 2002
              • 543

              #21
              Re: Re: Re: On Further testing.

              Originally posted by manike


              Sorry but not in detail until I find a way to see if it's possible to make them for everyone. Don't want someone ripping off my design and selling them first :)
              It would seem to be something patentable, despite the fact that it is pretty easy to do.

              And of course this is prior art vs. say someone else doing it


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              • beefstew
                SamIAmNot IHopeHeRots
                • Dec 2002
                • 559

                #22
                i am pretty sure i know how you did it and that is simple and sweet idea to cut out the hybrid mode. this means you could store it in manual and not have to have the inhibitor at all. that would be good for us forgetful types.
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                • manike
                  INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 3820

                  #23
                  Originally posted by beefstew
                  this means you could store it in manual and not have to have the inhibitor at all. that would be good for us forgetful types.
                  Unfortunately not. I looked at doing that but it's more complicated and costly.

                  You will still need to switch your gun off via the yellow pin (or switch) else the battery will drain.

                  manike
                  Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                  • p8ntballervirus
                    what was i thinking......
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 195

                    #24
                    so are you just saying this will improve your speed by the way the trigger was designed? i'm not following. or is there something like the agd/odessy trigger like the wheel?
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                    my feedback - http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...21#post1057221

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                    • manike
                      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 3820

                      #25
                      Originally posted by p8ntballervirus
                      so are you just saying this will improve your speed by the way the trigger was designed? i'm not following. or is there something like the agd/odessy trigger like the wheel?
                      The 'speed bumps' work exactly the same way as the wheel on Odysseys trigger... but can also be 'stroked' from the side (not as quick for me as from the front but still works).

                      Also a large edge radius makes it easier to walk the trigger in a conventional manner because you can slide past the edge of the trigger easy and keep a rhythm.

                      All in all it's the fastest trigger I've shot, how ever I use it.

                      manike
                      Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                      • FooTemps
                        HURRRR
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 6702

                        #26
                        So does this trigger work in manual?

                        I read over it but I'm kinda stupid from too many projects.

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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FooTemps
                          So does this trigger work in manual?
                          Did you even read the title? How can you have read the body of the thread without knowing the answer to your question?

                          YES. It works in all modes if you want it to. But you can make it just work for MANUAL and ELECTRONIC.

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                          • 1stdeadeye
                            Still around????
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 8501

                            #28
                            Nice!

                            Very nice job Manike!

                            Question: Where did you get that removable drop system? NPS doesn't carry them.

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                            • manike
                              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 3820

                              #29
                              Re: Nice!

                              Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
                              Question: Where did you get that removable drop system? NPS doesn't carry them.
                              From Have Blue. He posts here so you can PM him for one. Tell him you want one like I have. I love em.

                              They are originally from NW Paintball.

                              manike
                              Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                              • synreal
                                code monkey
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 1051

                                #30
                                Re: Nice!

                                Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
                                Very nice job Manike!

                                Question: Where did you get that removable drop system? NPS doesn't carry them.


                                very usefull little bit of hardware, but i'd hold off getting one for a week or so, you never know what could creep into the market by then.


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