What's happening in AGD R&D???????????????? (long)

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  • MantisMag
    Dim Sum
    • Dec 2001
    • 1895

    #16
    wow that's cool. it's good to know about all this. i'll make sure to put aside some money.

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    • PsychoBaller
      Gone are my SFL days...
      • Nov 2000
      • 1952

      #17
      Great Updtate.... However....

      That update was so throrough, I was so excited to see what the plans were behind the AGD Factory door. Very nice job Mr. Kaye.

      However.. I did find one area I still have a question on.

      I have an SFL Emag, but I'm sure all the Xmag Owners will want to know as well. What will be the deal with buying different Modules for our guns... I have a vert feed now... but what if I want to buy a Warp Left or Warp Right ?

      Pricing? Color Choices? Timing...if thats even on the project table yet ?

      I'm assuming for now that project is on hold till more Xmags are out?

      Thanks,
      ~da "always has a question left" baller

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      • yeahthatsme
        aka yeahthatswang
        • Sep 2002
        • 2592

        #18
        wow, now the question is what am i gonna buy
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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #19

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          • Kevmaster
            Owners Group Div: Director
            • Oct 2001
            • 5475

            #20
            Im a fan :)

            w00t! AGD!

            I Agree Sam. The efficiency of markers has to take the top priority. You are all smart people at AGD and can surely figure something out to make it better. I still get 1000 shots on a 68/45 tank with my LX Emag, but it should be better than that....somewhere 12-1400 shots per tank is a good thing

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            • manike
              INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

              • Jan 2001
              • 3820

              #21
              Originally posted by shartley
              I will however urge you to still look into the efficiency of your markers. This would not be a waste of time. Yes, one might say that a 5-10% loss of efficiency with the LX over a L7 may not seem bad, but I would suggest factoring in that L7 was not that good to begin with. ANY loss of efficiency is not good, and any improvement on that is a GOOD thing.
              I agree completely. I think the efficiency of my Level 10 X-mag is pretty much the same now as my RT was.

              However better and better efficiency to me is very important. It's very noticeable when coming from a well tuned cocker or angel to a mag.

              I think getting better efficiency that level 7 would be fantastic IF possible and a good goal to work towards.

              manike

              p.s. To those asking about modules. As production of X-mags moves along I suspect the extra modules will be available for warp feed (both left and right) it's just hard keeping up with demand for modules to fit the current marker demand :)
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              • Havoc_online
                www.havoc-online.com
                • Feb 2002
                • 2851

                #22
                an LX RT/Retro/Emag valve would give you around 950 shots on LX set-up properly on a 68ci @ 4,000 psi. around 1050 on a L7 set-up.

                Running at 4,500psi should give you at least 1,100-1,200 shots with LX

                that's a revy and a little over 7 pods. that's pretty darn good for a 68/4500. Most mid/front players dont take more than 7 pods out on the field

                back players do and back players dont use 68ci tanks. More like a 88ci or 114ci.

                88ci leads to around 1550 shots
                which is a revy and almost 9 pods.

                114ci leads to around 2000 shots
                which is a revy and almost 13 pods.

                **added**
                45ci leads to around 800 shots
                which is a revy and a little over 4 pods.
                Last edited by Havoc_online; 01-21-2003, 08:27 AM.
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                • pito189
                  viking
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 2093

                  #23
                  You could always set your tank to 600psi, I played all day last time I played a 600psi, with no noticable shoot down, or low shots. Chronoed 288,288,288. It was in E-Mode, but I don't care for the reactive trigger so it doesn't matter.
                  Old School Baller
                  Have a Viking, still miss my X-Mag

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #24
                    Bah! Get a bigger tank! Naw just kidding... :)


                    I am so dissapointed I do not see the Beer can holder Warp Feed on any of them lists! What happened!!!!



                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • Havoc_online
                      www.havoc-online.com
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 2851

                      #25
                      thanks pito...

                      BTW, those numbers are running @ 900psi @295fps using the cut spring

                      lower input pressure and lower velocities improve on the numbers for those who run 800psi or play on fields that have velocity limits of 250-280fps etc.

                      **added** with a decent to good paint/barrel
                      Last edited by Havoc_online; 01-21-2003, 08:26 AM.
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                      • manike
                        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 3820

                        #26
                        Good Numbers Havoc,

                        With my gun at around 295 and an 88ci 4500psi tank I can just squeeze out approx 1600 shots so that ties in well with what you figured.

                        I'd be happiest using a 45/45 tank though if possible
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                        • pito189
                          viking
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 2093

                          #27
                          Originally posted by manike

                          I'd be happiest using a 45/45 tank though if possible
                          Can you imagine 1200 shoots off a 45/45 with air to spare. That would be the day.
                          Old School Baller
                          Have a Viking, still miss my X-Mag

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                          • Creative Mayhem
                            AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 3633

                            #28
                            YOU DA MAN TOM!!!!

                            Thanks for the info, I'll be looking forward to these products whenthe finally come out.

                            C Mayhem



                            Owner:Purple People Eater - AFTICA XMAG
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                            • davidnj
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 218

                              #29
                              Can't wait for the ULE frames
                              New Mag in the works.

                              Black ULE Body, Chrome I-Frame, Chrome Omega rail, X-valved mag.

                              Ice ULE Body, Black I-Frame, Black Omega rail, lvl 10 valve mag.

                              Red 2k3 vert feed cocker

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                              • ben_JD

                                #30
                                Re: What's happening in AGD R&D???????????????? (long)

                                Originally posted by AGD
                                Sorry to the people that didn't get detents with their Xmags everyone was out of stock hence we have to make them.
                                To be clear, if my X-Mag shows up without a detent, will an Angel detent work in its place?

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