What happened to the 16bps industry cap?

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  • Kevmaster
    Owners Group Div: Director
    • Oct 2001
    • 5475

    #16
    hell...at hte IAO in '99 the PB industry agreed to ban ALL modes(Burst, Turbo, FA) forever...you see how far that got I can name one company that went out and changed their markers to be semi only

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    • 1stdeadeye
      Still around????
      • Jun 2002
      • 8501

      #17
      AGD blew past this too!

      My X-Mag came from the factory with a pre-set limit of 20 BPS.

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      • einhander619
        Swollen Member
        • Mar 2002
        • 814

        #18
        Full auto is useless anymore and I think that nowadays it is a sign of a gun manufacturer trying too hard. Just look at an electro spyder, all the firing modes are listed under "features." On high quality electros that will mostly be used in tourneys, there is usually a semi only board option (i.e. gz timmies.) I don't know about you guys, but using modes at my field is a sure sign that you are a noob or a poser. As for the bps cap, screw it. It's in AGD's best interest to market mags to the current paintball world as terrifyingly fast, non-chopping semiauto only guns.
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        • Blazingace
          ENGINE OF DESTRUCTION
          • Apr 2002
          • 829

          #19
          You have to look at the rate of fire as a maximum. Even if you can pull faster than 16 the gun will only fire 16. I like the semi auto only guns, but I think that they should be set up to infinite rates of fire. Your skill on the trigger and discipline should dictate your rate. The issue was not full auto, but the rate cap.

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          • SHAZAM-AGD
            Registered User
            • Jun 2002
            • 94

            #20
            it all boils down to liability....the manufacturs will always get pinched in the end no matter how much insurance the have...

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            • Umbra Solis
              The Thread Killer
              • Jan 2003
              • 43

              #21
              I agree with removing FA, but I strongly disagree with the cap. Why should players who have trained themselves to fire at insane rates be limited? And if they're going to put down a cap, they should stop advertising how fast a marker can fire without the cap! I find that to be quite tourturos. It's like saying "Your gun can fire at x bps, but you'll never get to see it."
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              • Blazingace
                ENGINE OF DESTRUCTION
                • Apr 2002
                • 829

                #22
                Amen Umbra. The E-Mag with Emagnum board will shoot 30+. 1stDeadeye said his X-mag was capped at 20,but the rest of us are only 16. Remove the cap and eliminate full auto.

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                • Little Matt
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 78

                  #23
                  ok, question. I thought emags can shoot 20 bps. Atleast thats the way they are advertised. So theres a "cap" or limitation that keeps a person from shooting more than 16 bps? Can this be changed to higher your rate of fire in semi-auto? Or is the a permanent setting?

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                  • cockermatt
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 262

                    #24
                    Originally posted by LaW
                    And what are the chances of someone being able to hold down 16bps at a constant rate? Yeah pretty slim.....
                    I beg to differ. :)

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                    • 1stdeadeye
                      Still around????
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 8501

                      #25
                      New Software

                      AGD V2.37 allows 20 BPS. I'll post a picture of mine tonight showing this.

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                      • Dayspring
                        aka- The Day Wang

                        • May 2001
                        • 9664

                        #26
                        Re: New Software

                        2.37? Is that the newest version for the X-Mags? I thought they were 2.1. Could be way wrong though.

                        Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
                        AGD V2.37 allows 20 BPS. I'll post a picture of mine tonight showing this.

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                        • Kevmaster
                          Owners Group Div: Director
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 5475

                          #27
                          Originally posted by cockermatt


                          I beg to differ. :)

                          So you say that you know someone who can fire 32 shots in 2 seconds? An average of 16bps for 2 seconds?

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                          • cockermatt
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 262

                            #28
                            How about...34 in one second.




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                            • 1stdeadeye
                              Still around????
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 8501

                              #29
                              Re: Re: New Software

                              Originally posted by Dayspring
                              2.37? Is that the newest version for the X-Mags? I thought they were 2.1. Could be way wrong though.

                              My bad. It is version 2.21. I checked my X-Mag a few minutes ago. 20 BPS is the cap though!

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                              • minimag187
                                I love paiiinnnnntball.
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 756

                                #30
                                My ir3 has a 20bps cap also. So do the 03 LCD's.
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