Just bought a used one, now what?

**irbodden** · 02-08-2003, 08:27 PM

The black dohicky is a vert ASA. You can screw a gas thru on to there or an expansion chamber if you are going to use Co2.

Yes, you can remove the SS braided hose and replace it with macroline however *many* prefer the SS.

Before upgrading your gun, get a nice thermal mask and 12 volt revy. From there, Intelliframe and LX are nice upgrades but might be overkill for ya if you are just playing with friends who might not have as nice markers..

Welcome to AO.

**irbodden** · 02-08-2003, 08:28 PM

Oh and BOAs are very nice and slightly 'rare' barrels. BOA stands for Barrels of America..

**Python14** · 02-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Good Choice of guns. Welcome back to the sport.

First, the black thingy is verticle adaptor. It was orignally designed so people could use verticle C02 tanks instead of bottomline. Today, you can use it to mount a forgrip. This means better balance. You don't have to use it. You can easily just take it off by taking the screw out.

Second, you are refering to macroline. Macroline is a godsend. It is plastic tubing that can be cut to basically any length. Just buy a macroline kit from your local store and follow the directions on the bag. It's very easy to use and lighter than stainless steel line.

Third and final, all you'll really need is a fast loader. Since you are going to be shooting like a madman I guess, a 12 volt revolution will be more than enough. Also, are you using co2? if so, get your local shop to install an anti-syphon tube in your tank(at the same time, get them to put on some macroline)

Finally, a BOA barrel is just an Aftermarket barrel just like any other one. It's made of Brass and is very good.

Either way, if you have anymore questions, feel free to PM me.

Enjoy.

**-=Squid=-** · 02-08-2003, 08:34 PM

Re: Just bought a used one, now what?

The black "thingie" is called an ASA, air source adapter. It can be used to put a foregrip or regulator there. You could take it off and run the hose directly to the valve if you wish, but I would recomend a decent forgrip to screw into it. The previous owner may have just wanted less hose sticking out.

You can replace the braided SS hose with macroline, or microline. I use braided myself, but many people prefer macro. I have had no experience with micro, but here it is unsafe to use. go with macro if you want the cleaner look.

Since you are only playing with friends, I wouldnt recomend a compressed air tank, I would go with a cheaper 20oz co2...but if you have the money, go with CA. Since you are not playing on a field, go with the biggest tank you can since you wont have a place to fill easily unless you dont mind driving to the field all the time just for air.

The boa barrel is just an aftermarket barrel. Again I have had no experience with them but I hear they are very good.

I wouldnt recomend putting many upgrades on it because you arent really taking it out in the public

but a trigger guard is always nice

I would also recomend a decent forgrip. SP makes some nice ones.

I hope this helps, and if you have any more questions just ask.

**caleqs** · 02-08-2003, 09:13 PM

Great. Thanks all. Very helpful. These boards seem a lot nicer than the ones at paintball.com. So far not one person has said, "Automags suck even worse than spyders, get a cocker dood." =)

Looking forward to throwing some paint through this thing and tinkering with it.

Thanks again.

**personman** · 02-08-2003, 09:36 PM

Automags suck even worse than spyders, get a cocker dood.

lol
Yea, most of the people on AO are pretty friendly.
I dont think you want that 'modified valve body' part, because it most likely means someone took a dremel to the valve.. but I'm not sure, thats just what it sounds like

Mags are great guns. Good choice.

**FalconGuy016** · 02-08-2003, 09:51 PM

Yes, I was worried when I read the modified valve. Thats 95% of the time never a good thing, as the stock AGD valve is the best. If you want to go compressed air and you wont be at a field, get something hugely large like a 114/4500 and remote it to your gun (put it on your back) or get an 88/4500 stubby to put on your gun, but then you must realize you will probably need a drop forward. If you go c02 (probably a better option) buy a Palmer Stabilizer Male(!) It goes into the vertical adaptor and acts as a c02 regulator/expansion chamber/forgrip. Its probably the best out there, and will prevent your valve from freezing. Also get antisiphon for your c02 tank. If you cant afford a palmer stabilzer, get some kind of expansion chamber. You could even remote the c02 if you want <- a great way to keep liquid out of your gun.

**$tevo** · 02-08-2003, 10:00 PM

caleqs, not a bad lookin mag so far. it could use an inteliframe, and X-valve and some nitro. then your set. and where in NJ do you live? i live in Sussex County near newton.

**caleqs** · 02-09-2003, 05:21 AM

Hi Stevo, I used to live up in Essex county...Glen Ridge, Bloomfield area. I'm in TX now. I used to play up around Vernon Valley in northern NJ.

**caleqs** · 02-09-2003, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by personman
I dont think you want that 'modified valve body' part, because it most likely means someone took a dremel to the valve.. but I'm not sure, thats just what it sounds like
Mags are great guns. Good choice.

Hmm, which piece do you think was modified? According to the manual I printed off from the web, it says the valve body is the "air inlet on one side." Is that an easily (inexpensive) piece to replace if its been hoarked? I hope its not having to replace it with an X-valve. That would blow my budget. =)

**personman** · 02-09-2003, 08:15 AM

Well, I would need to see it to know. I'm betting its an hole mod of some sort (where someone takes a drill and drills holes in the reg (back part of the valve) to supposivally increase the air flow, but it doesnt always work too great)
I stole this from someones tech thread, but as you can see, someone drilled holes in the right one. The left one is stock.

Other than that, I'm not entirely sure, and I dont know if it will screw your preformance or not..
BTW, I would get a new frame. The benchmark frame is cheaper than an intelliframe, but it has a longer, sloppier, trigger pull. I liked the bushy though, and I'm sure its pretty good with some modding. But yea, the intelliframe is the best.

Edit: Maybe by valve body, he ment main body, and maybe he ment he polished it.. I dunno

**FalconGuy016** · 02-09-2003, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by caleqs

Hmm, which piece do you think was modified? According to the manual I printed off from the web, it says the valve body is the "air inlet on one side." Is that an easily (inexpensive) piece to replace if its been hoarked? I hope its not having to replace it with an X-valve. That would blow my budget. =)

The Xvalve is an alluminum version of the retro valve and level ten, neither of which you have. Your valve is just the standard valve, which arent as expensive, but I dont know where you can get one easily. I actually think level ten would be a good idea since you might be dealing with bad/old paint a lot.

**caleqs** · 02-09-2003, 08:26 AM

Thanks personman. I hope its not been screwed with too much. The guy said the gun worked great, so I'm crossing my fingers he didn't butcher anything.

Benchmark frame? Who makes that?

What's the reason to change the frame? Is the stock one no good? I don't think I've seen many aftermarket frames for this gun. Maybe I just missed 'em tho.

**caleqs** · 02-09-2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by FalconGuy016

I actually think level ten would be a good idea since you might be dealing with bad/old paint a lot.

Hi Falcon. Level 10? Isn't that just a bolt mod? Why do you think I'd be dealing with bad/old paint? I plan on ordering new quality paint when I am ready to play. Is there something I don't know?

Thanks.

Just bought a used one, now what?

Just bought a used one, now what?

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