Just bought a used one, now what?

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  • personman

    #16
    If the gun works fine, and you dont notice anything bad, dont bother too much with it.
    Benchmark makes the benchmark frame
    They go for around 80 dollars for a double trigger one..
    Well I like the stock frame with the stock trigger, but I did the double trigger mod and I diddnt really like it at all, that trigger you have on there isnt too nice..
    Level 10 deals with kickback, I believe blowback, chops, and it even has a little foamie on the end of the bolt to give the ball a little cushion
    There are lots of frames besides the intelliframe, and the benchy, but the benchy is the only one that doesnt void your warrenty, besides the intelliframe, which is made by AGD. I think pro team products bought out benchmark, or they are partners with them..

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    • Load SM5
      Scruffy Administrator

      • Oct 2000
      • 6772

      #17
      I'm kinda with person on this one. If it's not broke, don't fix it. If you're going to run CO2, which sounds like your best choice if your just going to be out flinging some paint with buds in the backyard, then get an anit-syphon tube installed on your CO2 tank. Mags are fine on CO2 but if the liquid CO2 gets in the valve it tends to freeze up and screw up o-rings. Also an expansion chamber would be nice, those just screw in the vertical ASA and then you run the air line from that.

      I would also recommend a good loader to keep the paint moving. A 12 volt revvy would be good and can be found fairly cheaply used.

      I'd start there and play with the mag a few times. Take the time and learn the trigger. Mags don't like to be shortstroked and canchop paint if you don't pull and release the trigger fully. It takes some practice so go slowly and add speed once you get the pull down.

      Anything you decide you want to change after that we can address then. Mags have a good number of upgrades that can make them into God's own paint flinging uber-machine but, depending on your playing style and budget, may not be needed.

      Welcome to AO...the most opinionated forum on the net.


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      • caleqs
        Where's your skateboard?
        • Feb 2003
        • 120

        #18
        Thanks for the welcome Load. I don't mind opinionated as long as its informed. =) Was browsing the forums at paintball.com. Now *those* guys are opinionated. But they seem to be uninformed and/or inexperienced for the most part. Its actually painful to read.

        It sounds like I'll start with a CO2 setup with anti siphon and either the palmer thingy or an expansion chamber. I've always liked the idea of a remote, so I may try that. I'll take a look at diff frames as well. But first I'll see what this trigger feels like. I think I'm getting the stock trigger with the package, so that would be good. I'll get a good hopper et al and give it a try.
        Jeff
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        Polished p/f ReTro Automag, Freak SS back and TD front, stock frame with wood grips (still like this classic look), 68/3000 Flatline on an datapimp69 AO Drop.

        WTB (prices shipped): 689 & 691 Freak Inserts ($11ea), LX ($50)

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        • caleqs
          Where's your skateboard?
          • Feb 2003
          • 120

          #19
          Ah ha. I asked the seller what he'd done to the valve...here's his reply...

          "The origional valve body has a hole which the restricts the gas passage. You can buy new bodies with about twelve larger holes drilled in them, but this is overkill and it actually decreases efficiency. So, i took the body to work, put it on a mill, and drilled a few more appropriate size holes at the same angle. this way the gun recharges faster and doesnt waste gas."

          We'll see how it shoots. But sounds like a piece I can replace if it doesn't, no?
          Jeff
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          Polished p/f ReTro Automag, Freak SS back and TD front, stock frame with wood grips (still like this classic look), 68/3000 Flatline on an datapimp69 AO Drop.

          WTB (prices shipped): 689 & 691 Freak Inserts ($11ea), LX ($50)

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          • Load SM5
            Scruffy Administrator

            • Oct 2000
            • 6772

            #20
            I was mostly joking about the opinionated thing....mostly...ok not really. This is a great forum with some of the largest, most friendly brains I've ever seen. You'll like it here.

            Unfortunately, drilling holes will more than likely have voided the warranty on that valve. It may never cause you a problem but I have serious doubts it helped anything. If you run remote then don't do it with an anitsyphon tank. An anti syphon tube is a metal tube inside the tank. It's bent in such a way that when your tank is screwed on, the end of the tube is bent up and out of the liquid. If you take the same tank snd stick it straight up in a remote pouch that tube is down in the liquid and will suck it right up like a straw.
            Last edited by Load SM5; 02-09-2003, 01:17 PM.


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            • FalconGuy016
              Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
              • Aug 2002
              • 6127

              #21
              Originally posted by caleqs
              Ah ha. I asked the seller what he'd done to the valve...here's his reply...

              "The origional valve body has a hole which the restricts the gas passage. You can buy new bodies with about twelve larger holes drilled in them, but this is overkill and it actually decreases efficiency. So, i took the body to work, put it on a mill, and drilled a few more appropriate size holes at the same angle. this way the gun recharges faster and doesnt waste gas."

              We'll see how it shoots. But sounds like a piece I can replace if it doesn't, no?
              Tell him that in theory it *should* work but it HAS been thoroughly proven that doesn't improve the performace at all, and can actually be damaging if done wrong and it voids the warrenty (a big deal there). If he doesnt believe (probably wont) get him to AO and make him ask why here himself. I doubt anything will be wrong though, he sounds like he did a good job. As for level 10, (if you set it up righT) its safe to say you wont chop paint ever again
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