A BIG Trigger Question!!!!!!

[Fatjon]

definatly mechanical!!!!!!! I would love a mechanical(with out retro because i do not like the feel of it) that could keep up with the electros.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

id buy a mech, a dude at my feild got his electro fried by it getting hit:)

[hardr0ck68]

i picked i would bedate, because i (like many mag owners) have a solid all mechanical back up mag, now i dont often spend lots of money on this marker but i do like to keep it current and competative. If you could offer me this super soft trigger for 150 or so 200 would be pushing it, then yeah i would go for it. Price is the deciding factor with me

[battlegroup]

I would have to debate this for a while.

The mechanical trigger has it advantages in that it would be simpler (i'm guessing), would remove the weight of the battery and electronics, and be cheaper.

However, I like having the very lite elctronic trigger, absolutley no chance of short stroking, the electronic eye (I know lvl 10 does this also) to prevent chops, and my E-mag battery as a foregrip and running both my warp and loader.

On any other E-gun I would lean toward the mechanical side to elimate parts I can't fix and make it more reliable, But with the e-mag I like the fact I can switch to manual and barring a problem with the battery itself, finish a game if the electronics crap out. And if it is the battery I can just throw some batteries into the loader and warp for the next game.

How about both triggers on an E-mag? The very adjustable e trigger and a very lite mech one as well?

[virus]

Mech for me.... just more relible overall....
that and every electro i have fired always seemed
to miss a pull here and there.... ie the 3 different Emags
i have fired all set at different bps (one which was at max)
would miss a pull alot for me, same for the 1 angel, 3imps, 1 shocker, 1 matrix...... they all did the same... granted i loved the trigger pull the missed shots on pulls the would have happened but were before the next interval the eltronics would look for got old real fast.....

where sneve i got my retro valve i'm not running into that problem anymore....

[ShooterJM]

Mech all the way!

Between the warp, revy, and now an impy I'm already keeping duracell in business! And quite frankly, I still like my mags trigger better then the mouse click. If it could be short and lighter it'd be great.

Although, if it made easier to short stroke that probably wouldn't be a good thing for the agd rep.

[ben_JD]

If the mechanically triggered marker is built and on the shelves prior to the X-Mag I ordered and paid a deposit for about 14 months ago, then I will get the mechanically triggered marker.

[Sinnet]

mechanical!

I can't wait to see where this hypothetical is going...

[ogre55]

I agree with most everyone else. If I could get a mechanical marker with comporable performance to an electro, but without the added headaches of electronics going all stupid, then I would go with the mechanical marker.

So now we all have to sit and wonder what Mr. Kaye has in mind.

Ogre

[Punkerx2]

mechanical

i would buy a mechanical definately over an electro, cuz if something goes wrong it would be easy to fix, and i dont like the feel of electronic pulls, it makes me feel like im not in charge, im just relying on the solenoids and wires to do their job, but with mechanical you can feel the sear push on the onoff pin and feel the bolt push forward and feel the sear catch, it just makes it feel like im in charge... mechanical anyday

[cledford]

I say electro..

I say electro. It is insane how light/short you can go with the pull - no mechanical trigger will even beat it. Also, due to the nature of "E" triggers, it is impossible to short-stroke them.

The only benifit I see with a lighter mechanical pull would be that you couls have a gun that *might* get close to the electros BPS, but save A LOT of weight over say the Emag.

You could call it the Retro mag

-Calvin

[nuclear zombie]

considering I just ordered a $1500 x-mag , I would say electronic , but that's only for the emag and that because of the redundancy feature to switch to manual .
It's still a mechanical trigger and yes you could get close to an electronic trigger pull but still it's just "close".
I also thought the emags were shown to be very reliable , and handled the moisture pretty well .

Later

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

mechanical

Definitely mechanical. I am always concerned about how many electros have problems, batteries die (I know, check before games, but who hasn't had a revvie die on them at least once cause you didn't check the battery), how easily they can be damaged, fried boards, contact problems from dirt or paint, etc. Not every can have three guns and spare boards lying around. My Mag is extremely reliable and easy to troubleshoot problems and it's because of its reliability I didn't sell it to get an Impulse. Still considering an LED Matrix but the electric issue is why I'm holding off. The biggest problem I have with it is the weight of the trigger pull and I guess Mr. Kaye has something in mind. Electric is good but kind of a fad. Upper end electros like the XMag put my Mag to shame but I always laugh when I see a kid with a $200 electric spyder and he thinks his gun is better than any analog gun. All he has over me is that he can acheive high rates of chopping.

I would laugh my head off if it resembles the idea I came up with a couple months ago and posted on the tech board. With the retro and xvalves the push back is so strong and recharge rate so great that theoretically you could have a spring pushing against the front of the trigger near the top (or even bottom) so that it's like you always have finger pressure against it. 1 pound of pressure would cut greatly into the pull required and not stop the trigger from recocking, and if you can tune it to the point it lightens the pull as much as it can without interfering in the stroke it could rip. And the shortened pull that a trigger stop or frame like the Intelliframe gives would make the trigger pull very closely resemble that of an electric. I hope Mr. Kaye doesn't make thousands off this, if so I should have sold the design to Shocktech or something The thread was entitled Trigger or Spring Trigger. I'll look for it later.

Edit: Found the thread I was talking about....

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61424&highlight=trigger

[redlaser666]

I always prefer a mechanical trigger. No batteries to go dead, rain has no efect, can throw it against a wall and it still works. Mechanical all the way.

[Pand0ra]

Electro. Except if you can make a trigger extremely short, and quite soft.

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