A BIG Trigger Question!!!!!!

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  • mistwolf
    Newless Cluebie
    • Jan 2003
    • 164

    #76
    I would, in the end, likely go with mechanical. There is just too much to go wrong in an electro that I won't be able to fix, and you always have to worry about the wet and dropping it. We play a rough sport, and it suprises me that more electros don't snuff it just because of the nature of the beast.

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    • Darkstorm
      Texas Ranger
      • Aug 2002
      • 313

      #77
      9 Volt

      I voted Mechanical and I just spent as much on a brand new 68 and upgrades (even sent in a new valve for an xvalve) that most people would have bought an EMag HOWEVER.....

      I will NEVER buy a gun that requires a battery charger, but I own a Black Dragon that uses a 9v (I can go through at least 3 cases on a battery) and love it except for the chopping.

      A mechanical gun, that is SIMPLE, with that light of a trigger (and an XValve) would be great.

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      • DiRTyBuNNy
        Registered User
        • Sep 2001
        • 4854

        #78
        I can't really choose either, because I've got a feeling Tom's either A. got an idea or B. Already has a prototype for something he's not giving us info about yet. I've been on here long enough to remember when Tom asked people if 10bps was too slow for a mag if it never chopped paint..what became of that question? uuh...Level 10..and does it top out at 10bps? nope...and it virtually eliminates chops...I think that's a homerun in my book.
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        • Jerhew
          Riverside Regiment
          • Jul 2002
          • 677

          #79
          ok Tom
          i think its pretty clear
          there are some diehard mechanical fans out there
          i think if you had something to lighten the mags trigger pull
          it'd go over almost as big as the level 10 did
          heck
          you might even win over a couple more cocker fans...
          with that and the lx...who would bother with cockers?
          so can ya fill us in now?

          man if you pull this one off...it'll be an almost entirely new mag...
          x-valve, y-frame, aluminum bodies...and now lighter triggers...
          wow
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          • Miscue
            Super Moderator

            • Oct 2000
            • 7105

            #80
            If you can make a mechanical with a trigger that rivals an electro, I'll put my EMag on the wall as a show piece and point out to people how I used to use batteries in the old days.

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            • einhander619
              Swollen Member
              • Mar 2002
              • 814

              #81
              Well for marketability I'd say electro, but my RT was every bit as fast as my bushy. I need more info before I say anything with weight.
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              • Panzerr
                a stockaholic
                • Sep 2001
                • 683

                #82
                I would definetlily purchase a very light mechanical trigger over an electronic trigger. Less to go wrong -no batteries required. If AGD were to come out with a fully mechanical version of the x-mag, I would set aside my ir3.
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                • AGD
                  The man from AGD

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5916

                  #83
                  Ok I get the message loud and clear. Standby for second poll.

                  THANKS!!!!!!

                  AGD
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                  • tunaman jr
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 72

                    #84
                    mechanical

                    i never wanted to give up my retro trigger pull but christmas came along and dropped off an e mag. so when i told pops that i dident want to use it till i had problems with the retro mag he almost cried. i will always have a mechanical pull in my heart...i miss you tookie. "sniffle"

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                    • Sinistarr
                      Starr Wang
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 465

                      #85
                      You can't beat the feal of the trigger when it fires. I prefer mechanical to electro for the feel of the release, or fire point. The lighter you can make it the faster you can shoot.

                      Electros are great for speed and getting it to bouce. I guess I just prefer mechanical.


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                      • Dern
                        QQ
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 329

                        #86
                        Mechanical- because simplicity is best in my opinion. It is easier to replace, make, and fix too.


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                        • Sputnik
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 53

                          #87
                          Mechanical...

                          Mechanical for me. I like the reliability and fixability.

                          Dang, and I was just about to get an Intelliframe, now I have to wait more!!!

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                          • magnj
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1004

                            #88
                            Ahhhh, I dont know, ima say both
                            ON one hand , a mechanical triger will not break and easy to maintain, And with a soft pull would be great

                            BUt on the other hand, electro trigers are awsome and I doubt and mech. trigger can come close to the pull of an electro. but if the new triger/frame could be rigged for a little blinking led(we all know thats why we love electros....) then I may buy it

                            Hope this helps
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                            • ß.C.
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 1921

                              #89
                              If AGD is gonna make a mech trigger with magnets like the medusa then I'm SOOO in if they come in chrome! I wanted to spend $150 on the medusa, think how much I'd spend on an AGD one!

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                              • Trigger_Happy
                                Magic Elf #02485
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 807

                                #90
                                Mechanical all the way! Electro grips can easily fail! Also, I have an odd situation:

                                My closest nitro fill is 45min from me. An hour and a half round trip is too much. Many have said, 'get a scuba'. Others tell me that my field is dumb for not having a compressor. I don't want your suggestions, simply understand that I choose to play on CO2 because all the other alternatives are unreasonable.

                                Because I can't/refuse to get HPA, I run a classic mag on CO2. I love my mag! I gave up the mag for cockers, impys, and quite a few other things, but I came crawling back :) My one complaint against the mag is the trigger pull! I have a nice STO coker that I like to play with in spare time, and it's hinge trigger is as short or shorter than my intelli. The BIG difference is that the hinge is REALLY light and smooth! The mag has that "on/off pull". If you could make me a lighter trigger that would help the speed of my classic mag, I'd pay the moon for it!!!

                                It may be worth it to you to make both though, Tom! Lots of rec players use classic mags. However, I find that those rec players often buy their mags used! You, Tom, are not making profit on a large number of mag sales, because it seems that mags are being "circulated" as opposed to bought. On the other hand, you could make a fortune by marketing a great mech trigger to rec-ballers who've purchased used mags. The mag owners I know are willing to spend big bucks on things that upgrade performence; even the mag owners that are too cheap to buy a case of paint for more than $45!!

                                I'm sorry for the long post, and I'm sure you guys know better than I do what will sell, and what won't, to various markets. I just want to let you know that there would be money in a mech trigger. Thanks!

                                *EDIT* Let me clarify by giving you a number. If you offered a gun that had a very light trigger, yet ran on CO2, I'd pay up to $600 for it. If you made some kind of aftermarket part (Valve, on/off assy, trigger frame, or whatnot!) that allows for a light trigger, yet runs on CO2, I'd probably pay up to $200 for it. Well.....that $200 is negotiable....I'm desperate! Cheap is very, very good, but I think the classic mag trigger pull feels awkward and need a solution!
                                Last edited by Trigger_Happy; 02-15-2003, 03:09 PM.
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